From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 11 11:49: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528B9155A8 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:49:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomg@nrnet.org) Received: from mailhost.nrnet.org (mailhost.nrnet.org [166.84.192.39]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44E71F777; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (tomg@localhost) by mailhost.nrnet.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA29221; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:08:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:08:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Good To: Doug Cc: Gary Kline , Dutch Collins , Mitch Collinsworth , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question about the mascot In-Reply-To: <37B1A05B.2B3B29B2@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Doug wrote: > Thomas Good wrote: > > > > > If it makes you feel better you can go ahead and belittle people > > > who are put off by it. Knock yourself out. But the fact is, the > > > demon/daemon mascot puts some people off. From a marketing standpoint a > > > logo that makes X% of your target market uncomfortable (where X is > > > actually, most everyone who doesn't already know what *bsd is) is bad for > > > business. It doestn't matter WHY it's bad for business, or how morally > > > superior you feel because you are above those considerations, it IS bad > > > for business. > > > > If you don't make *some* people uncomfortable you *are* doing something > > wrong. > You are proving my point here. You don't care about the marketing > implications at all, it just makes you feel good to know that you are Argumentum ad hominem, Doug. My point is that if a product/idea requires a paradigm shift you make some people uncomfortable. Also, you seem less informed about marketing than you may wish to believe. Controversy sells. Try to ban something and watch sales trends. Have a look the last US gun control bill (assault weapons) and look at the net effect. Gun dealers *love* this bill... This issue to me is one of free speech, not marketing...BSD will continue to gain market share. > > Personally, I find people who want to restrict others' freedom of expression > > far more evil than people who draw cartoon daemons. > > No one is talking about restricting anyone's freedom of expression, least > of all me. All I am saying is that some promotional materials without > demons on them would be a good thing. So make some. I'll take a few and plaster them on my boxes. But you don't have the right to tell someone else that they shouldn't market their product as they see fit, based on your view of morality. Paradigm shift, guy...give it a shot. ------- North Richmond Community Mental Health Center ------- Thomas Good MIS Coordinator Vital Signs: tomg@ { admin | q8 } .nrnet.org Phone: 718-354-5528 Fax: 718-354-5056 /* Member: Computer Professionals For Social Responsibility */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message