From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Oct 12 18:30:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA05100 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:30:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from hwcn.org (main.hwcn.org [199.212.94.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA05095 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@hwcn.org) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (ac199@james.hwcn.org [199.212.94.66]) by hwcn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA22174; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA25755; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:31:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca: ac199 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:31:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek X-Sender: ac199@james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca To: Terry Lambert cc: Tim Vanderhoek , jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fnord0: disabled, not probed. In-Reply-To: <199710130104.SAA04724@usr05.primenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Which means you don't fix things until _after_ you've had > > unexplained problems... > > I tried it the other way, but it just didn't work out; everyone called > it "research" for some reason. 8-) 8-). Haha! :) Perhaps if more things went wrong more often we would all do a lot more research, and the world would be a lot better for it... :) > > Hm. Come to think of it, Johnny might not be aware of the dmesg > > command or scrollback capabilities, making it all the more > > important that only truly relevent information is spewed forth at > > him. > > I think "Little Johnny" will be more interested in a login prompt than > if his probe messages say "disabled" or whatever... Great! So we agree then that it is more important to show Johnny messages which will impair his ability to login than to show him (relatively) meaningless "disabled" messages. :) -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk