From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 8 12:32:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C0537B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 12:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rac3.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:root@rac3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.143]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26603; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from rac3.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA04014; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04010; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:31:58 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac3.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:31:57 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Jeremy Vandenhouten Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RE: KNE100TX - Ethernetcard In-Reply-To: <48858848b9ed.48b9ed488588@marquette.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would suspect the same thing, but then would the pciconf -l output he gave me match my pciconf -l exactly for that card? I don't know, but his output matches mine EXACTLY, and my card works... but his doesn't... ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Jeremy Vandenhouten wrote: > Guys, > > I worked at what was primarily an ISP, although we did OEM build > machines for companies that used us as their ISP. Basically we setup > routers for their ISDN connections, gateways, mailservers, etc. using > FreeBSD. Needless to say, we used ALOT of these cards, which is why I > have a few of them. In all the time I worked there, we never had a > problem with these cards. Yet, I did notice that the chipsets on these > cards did change from time to time. Sometimes it was a DEC chip and > othertimes it was an Intel-based chip. As a matter of fact, I have one > of those cards in one of my machines at home and it gives me the > same "compatibility shims" message that you're getting. Unfortunately, > I haven't done any work with this, since at the moment, this machine > stands alone and uses a modem for internet connectivity. > > What may be the issue is that it happens to have a different chipset > (Intel or something else perhaps?) > > Just sending out logical probabilities. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zaitsau, Andrei" > Date: Wednesday, November 8, 2000 9:34 am > Subject: RE: KNE100TX - Ethernetcard > > > I dunno guys, I run FreeBSD 3.4 as Gateway with 2 NIC's installed. > > One of > > them is KNE100TX which is connected to ADSL modem, the device name > > is pn0 , > > and I never had any problems with it... > > Andrei... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lee J Carmichael [mailto:lcarmich@wamnet.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 9:30 AM > > To: Kenneth Wayne Culver > > Cc: mac; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: KNE100TX - Ethernetcard > > > > > > Hello Kenneth, > > > > I agree, that changing the attach section wouldn't be too > > difficult. I'm > > sorry if I had the jargon incorrect as well. > > > > Take Care, > > -------- > > Lee Carmichael WAM!NET Inc. > > System Engineer 655 Lone Oak Rd Building E > > 651-256-5292 Eagan, MN 55121 > > > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > > In that case it would not have said "de0" I did look at the > > code, it would > > > say "pci0" instead of "de0" so it at least got through the probe > > portion> of the code, it probably failed in attach, I guess I just > > used the wrong > > > word... chances are that if someone goes through the code it is > > probably> not too hard to make this chip work. > > > > > > > > > ================================================================= > > > | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade | > > > | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | > > > | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | > > > | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | > > > | College Park. | > http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| > > > ================================================================= > > > > > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Lee J Carmichael wrote: > > > > > > > No it isn't. Just because it attempted to guess doesn't mean > > it was able > > > > to load a driver or attach a device. If it doesn't show up as > > a network > > > > device it didn't find a driver. Read the device driver code, I > > bet you > > > > wouldn't find support for that revision of the chip in it. > > Just like the > > > > AMD chipset I checked over. Basically, it finds a superset for > > that> > chipset but not that particular version so it guesses at > > detection but > > > > isn't able to anything more. > > > > > > > > Mac: I ran into this on 4.1. > > > > > > > > -------- > > > > Lee Carmichael WAM!NET Inc. > > > > System Engineer 655 Lone Oak Rd Building E > > > > 651-256-5292 Eagan, MN 55121 > > > > > > > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > > > > > > this is wrong... it says "de0:" so that means it IS > > attaching a device > > > > > driver. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================================================> > > > > | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade > > | > > > > > | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 > > | > > > > > | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr > > | > > > > > | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under > > Construction) | > > > > > | College Park. | > > http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/|> > > > > =================================================================> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Lee J Carmichael wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Mac, > > > > > > > > > > > > In my experience, this means that the ethernet > > card/chipset is > > detected > > > > > > but that it does not have a driver for it. Basically, you > > need to > > search > > > > > > for a driver(or write one) to use the card/chipset. > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- > > > > > > Lee Carmichael WAM!NET Inc. > > > > > > System Engineer 655 Lone Oak Rd Building E > > > > > > 651-256-5292 Eagan, MN 55121 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, mac wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi there, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i got a really strange problem with this KNE100TX from > > Kingston:> > > > > de0: at device > > 11.0 on pci0 > > > > > > > de0: driver is using old-style compatibility shims > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the bootmessage (the dc-driver did not produce any > > information at > > > > > > > boottime), but i can't attach ip-numbers on it. if a > > make a > > ifconfig -a > > > > > > > the device is not listed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > die digital-chip on the card says: 21140-AF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could someone help me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > > > > mac > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > DaMac@irc: #team23.org > > > > > > > mac@deam.org > > > > > > > PGP-ID#: 0x6F28F58E > > > > > > > PGP-Type: DH/DSS | 2048/1024 > > > > > > > -------------------------------------> http://mac.deam.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the > > message> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the > > message> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message