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Date:      Tue, 17 Mar 2020 21:46:27 +0000
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP: importing kyua into the base system
Message-ID:  <20200317214627.GA5399@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>
In-Reply-To: <202003171856.02HIuTxt098921@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
References:  <20200317183230.GB2618@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <202003171856.02HIuTxt098921@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>

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On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:56:29AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:14:02AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > > > I'll be importing kyua and it's dependency lutok into the base syst=
em
> > > > this week.  Integrating it into the FreeBSD build system will make =
it
> > > > available by default which is especially valuable on emerging
> > > > architectures were we aren't building packages yet (e.g. riscv).
> > >
> > > Why isnt there a preceding discussion of this on -arch?
> >=20
> > The lack of kyua in base (meaning the inability to run the test suite
> > without package infrastructure) has been discussed as a pain point for
> > ages.
>=20
> I recall no such discsussion in the past 3 years, where was this
> dicussion at? =20

I've been involved in several informal discussions of the subject at
devsummits and online chats.  I honestly thought you were present for
one at a BSDCan devsummit.

-- Brooks

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