From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Tue Mar 17 21:46:31 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C902D273494 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 21:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48hmvq0BQcz4DgQ for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 21:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B6F43273493; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 21:46:30 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AA1273492 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 21:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (spindle.one-eyed-alien.net [199.48.129.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48hmvm3ptRz4DZy for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 21:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (Postfix, from userid 3001) id 31C3B3C0199; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 21:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 21:46:27 +0000 From: Brooks Davis To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: importing kyua into the base system Message-ID: <20200317214627.GA5399@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20200317183230.GB2618@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <202003171856.02HIuTxt098921@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202003171856.02HIuTxt098921@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48hmvm3ptRz4DZy X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net has no SPF policy when checking 199.48.129.229) smtp.mailfrom=brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.38 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.86)[-0.855,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[brooks@freebsd.org,brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:199.48.128.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[brooks@freebsd.org,brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net]; IP_SCORE(-3.63)[ip: (-9.52), ipnet: 199.48.128.0/22(-4.75), asn: 36236(-3.82), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 21:46:31 -0000 --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:56:29AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:14:02AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > I'll be importing kyua and it's dependency lutok into the base syst= em > > > > this week. Integrating it into the FreeBSD build system will make = it > > > > available by default which is especially valuable on emerging > > > > architectures were we aren't building packages yet (e.g. riscv). > > > > > > Why isnt there a preceding discussion of this on -arch? > >=20 > > The lack of kyua in base (meaning the inability to run the test suite > > without package infrastructure) has been discussed as a pain point for > > ages. >=20 > I recall no such discsussion in the past 3 years, where was this > dicussion at? =20 I've been involved in several informal discussions of the subject at devsummits and online chats. I honestly thought you were present for one at a BSDCan devsummit. -- Brooks --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJecUUyAAoJEKzQXbSebgfARv8H/0/+MJ1tRCVWhG9oCnpGNLdJ /M5XHQksY3JHLRB/ITjZnS109/W6k9B4U4nFxvnL6gBp2NZgsLuaOL7EmI4Xa4aH Uqk03dT/TXcUesbZTg1mGrd4vulzD1MsQE6OSXozeJHkaM9vP2/D8XJISFBWaaX7 BrfhCBPDg58kw1hlicl5vvDIayZigZQn3i8ps3bWWKBKYhRl7K94zB0pFKaw3sPL 9V/dknRCf4rxOHTUfVP4JESx/JMpM2VQB2UMCY7NlqEVt5goDZoBUyTULxA8vlO4 9X4FwK9XDBI7NYlW/XpasU3mUCsm4uOnkdpK8hMSqa/E4pmGI5C0d5tic7pB/3c= =MXtM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X--