From owner-freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Thu Mar 29 13:40:21 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F2EF770EA for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 13:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben.rubson@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x235.google.com (mail-wr0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52C9B6E6C3; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 13:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben.rubson@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x235.google.com with SMTP id l49so5461181wrl.4; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 06:40:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=BVQwSp7Uop+wYA00Q2eX6iXtyUtc8upix7cmLxeaSMI=; b=hNwLI1H7Yf43/BFq/WRpkNdwTJZTx0JSGDBfDZpe7pZl1xxpoaQY29+Lu5WmU8elcC 3C17RLZYRxglk3YVMsMbUfVQZB1dARmAZJz6YvJOm9ddd48vj9qKWecDpRBZKtpaULqI N+s1s1YL663pEZh+aYcAJ6N/ecHWleibUahupgfXsw1kAr+9xsU4aV1QohgbbhX55CYC eXTsX+qgcnZSVvZx7BXK5Cu1WLHI2rVYfarm4gjeybzjVVtNe9p8htkJWQmEfccZ++9C PdlqKrO19OCvBzm89en6FLPXDxR062Vp+/UGvMYNpDRVECwBtW0bPXlr4Ni8FyCBUJAA XjfA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=BVQwSp7Uop+wYA00Q2eX6iXtyUtc8upix7cmLxeaSMI=; b=UMxOqxhjrQe60OEDvXFA/eYqUjwl38gIplClRxxBe6gnp6xeJ3FTV5td6i/T6n7Ite 8OXNfs8bTeS6TW9GQCw60AfAOolt1h/R7m3jp5aBVF4eHcSYcSI/xuljEu0FVpBrptP2 g5kJZXkqUpR1YmW9thbd34aaswUxcCIn7eCONPM1fol55AaVU/KXAJWgUpuHsL8ZGqDC dLK/Hmq04gxMM9c69pjP6/xyP7bTVm8xC+0aeDotiME4zlImU15Yi0dKY/7BeoyPW4Lf 13J6aJ0YCZ4JDLf0dA3jQX/jH3dKfld+eq1+XJ01pV0WMBE6SbnNQRcbd8W6EpqAI/pD UVUw== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7FzHS8rGAWgUwKzAWN1UMPx0tU76nTH8XTywkgLq4eAQDisCAEB rTZwcitn2v8Y7pXcNWRJLzvaJ4ac X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx49Z67B6oHRWpFqK6kPcj2XFt6a+bnvrHt3YpqbCHyZ6ckcOQyK0fGVJ0gL75+NFLbmnCy84+Q== X-Received: by 10.223.143.7 with SMTP id p7mr6295036wrb.207.1522330819335; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 06:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bens-mac.home (LFbn-NIC-1-211-113.w2-15.abo.wanadoo.fr. [2.15.58.113]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 43sm7296883wru.40.2018.03.29.06.40.18 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Mar 2018 06:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: smart(8) Call for Testing From: Ben RUBSON In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:40:16 +0200 Cc: lev@freebsd.org, Tom Evans via freebsd-fs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <05EE6839-C5A1-4AF9-A4DC-D01210F715C1@gmail.com> References: <4754cb2f-76bb-a69b-0cf5-eff4d621eb29@callfortesting.org> <1d3f2cef-4c37-782e-7938-e0a2eebc8842@quip.cz> <7ED27465-1BC2-4522-873E-9ECE192EB7A2@ultra-secure.de> To: Chuck Tuffli X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 13:40:21 -0000 On 29 Mar 2018 15:27, Chuck Tuffli wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: >> On 27.03.2018 22:13, Rainer Duffner wrote: >> >>> Maybe one of the vendors who sells FreeBSD as part of an appliance has >>> shown some interest in this? >>> >>> If you’re hardware is well-defined and thus the output is consistent, I >>> could imagine it’s not too difficult to parse this. >> smartd is very important part of smartmontools, smartctl is not so. >> >> And periodic self-test triggering & check is most important feature of >> smartd, IMHO. >> >> Modern HDDs are liers in SMART. And only regular self-test discover >> real errors on surfaces in my experience. >> >> So, tool without support for HDD self-tests is of little usage for >> appliances, IMHO. > > Thank you for the feedback! As I don't have any experience with > smartd, can you help me better understand which parts of it are most > useful to you? Is it just periodically triggering the self test or > are there other features as well? For example, logging the SMART > values, emailing / triggering notifications when certain criteria are > met, monitoring the self tests, reading the error logs, etc.? This is actually the job of smartd : scheduling / testing / monitoring / alerting :) Ben