From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 12 22:54:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EAF16A412 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:54:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: from mxout2.iskon.hr (mxout2.iskon.hr [213.191.128.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BEEF43D45 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:53:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: (qmail 8352 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2006 00:53:57 +0200 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.142.124 Received: from unknown (HELO mx.iskon.hr) (213.191.142.124) by mxout2.iskon.hr with SMTP; 13 Oct 2006 00:53:57 +0200 Received: (qmail 11540 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2006 00:53:57 +0200 X-Remote-IP: 213.202.84.199 Received: from lns01-0198.dsl.iskon.hr (HELO sparrow.local) (213.202.84.199) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 13 Oct 2006 00:53:57 +0200 Received: (qmail 2078 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Oct 2006 22:53:55 -0000 To: Vivek Khera Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWgnbRLVpRNVY9jMRPh s21jSlEyNVX45Mv4zI+sbUclFAtMVpT8V0lFAAACZ0lEQVR4nG3Tv2vbQBQHcFMogWyeNeVK BLXGl5j6xnABOaNTuXFGmWpwtw519yj4soW6AatT4GKD3+aDZrl/rt/Tr9qlGiz7Pn7v3bsf HVc/NrIiSfElqH53GgijcCqzk/+AmBF5cN0DsFlIRGMh/oHuqxkTM6VlzB4EoZEs2aSZOASb EQJYZpweQshE697GTDndBXtgp9LIT9+OpDGHEfb9knk+nx+jfN1JCVZMCl6XwFm0a2EXztZD 3s4fj47ZbKI2VeBmJImeEfGLJ+M9sDPilX7IB5rN6sdfcGhuoHU+LC4nxfnI7YOJtdb95Gb+ fbgJ2uJ2ZgaA++f5ZzBqNCCYfMTd5q0BfBVNqm7I8gUjQ+YtXotRW6PH9AEj+dKs/KuNQAl5 o/NY+QkonW8aQAl0oXMYPvRiXIM4pRJifbXytnhTA8alBx/jefG2ar3DBlt34/PXz9M+nMVN iNaPUdCApJc2ItejOmLGoK1qQLV9pJmXBnL10DYoBA5aHNfj8ZNwZa5O4CzgTJeilKJmrQJs IHIt1/7/Sg2p3iq/Hz0/5W05rq4M9aN2B5FLohUP4ylVyfxhEIjAs8J4PhIJ9U+CEroogib5 BXAf7bB4vkfAzgPFt1tM9sJZAOH+lCexhwswuNtim4QTZdokqo4o89LkH7V6iFxICeqfp+Wh fmUuGPunLj2Meti6Cn4DjJ/UReROqR+aqawAi/JkfgKE64rrfkhjU8MtT8ivR4S5n6Yo08A7 HvgAlHDWRSGlNSDxwK9HtXy4FS2I60EdUIJM+Ut9OZNJG4CpbEQW1VBQoQoPuBw2EVa4P0u0 TgzQF+VoAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: <86mz81xj3q.fsf@sparrow.local> (Marko Lerota's message of "Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:30:33 +0200") References: <452E2151.80500@suutari.iki.fi> <86hcy9zc1h.fsf@sparrow.local> <3FE17199-C351-4C29-AC36-7A94F344C135@khera.org> <86mz81xj3q.fsf@sparrow.local> Organization: *BSD Users - Fanatics Dept. X-Request-PGP: X-GNUPG-Fingerprint: CF5E 6862 2777 A471 5D2E 0015 8DA6 D56D 17E5 2A51 From: Marko Lerota Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:53:55 +0200 Message-ID: <8664epxi0s.fsf@sparrow.local> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: carp0 interface goes down on 6.2-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:54:00 -0000 Marko Lerota writes: >> Shouldn't it then move to MASTER since the other server could >> possibly be dead? > > Yes, but if interface had _never_ received any pfsync packet, > and sysctl is set to net.inet.carp.preempt=0 ? > Maybe it's because of that. Don't know really. Documentation for > this is not so good. Someone who knows this code and how this really > works, should write handbook like documentation. Clusters are > always complex, and for that, docs should be *very* detailed. > If someone does that, I'll buy him a beer. I meant: Maybe first they have to talk to each other and say: "OK, I will be the master first, and you wait. And if I don't send you any more sync packets, then you should be in charge :)" If they didn't agree on that, and don't know about each other, that should be the INIT state. Thats the only reasonable thing that I could think of, because there is no such INIT state in documentation !!!!@#!@#!@ -- One cannot sell the earth upon which the people walk Tacunka Witco