From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 8 21:47:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18586 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:47:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18581 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:47:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id VAA25375; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma025373; Thu Oct 8 21:47:08 1998 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id VAA23251; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:47:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199810090447.VAA23251@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: installworld and softupdates In-Reply-To: <199810082239.PAA20091@usr06.primenet.com> from Terry Lambert at "Oct 8, 98 10:39:09 pm" To: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: thomma@BayNetworks.COM, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry Lambert writes: > > I have a machine whose / partition is 32MB and about 10MB > > space left. Softupdates is enabled on / as well as other > > partitions. > > > > The buildworld completes with a hitch. Then installworld always > > fails when updating /sbin with / file system full. > > After the failure, when I did df, I saw 9MB left. > > > > Then I thought that softupdates was delay^H^H^H^H^Hoptimizing the > > temporary file space reclaim which install -s (stripping) creates and > > deletes very quickly during installworld. > > > > It turned off softupdates and tried installworld. > > > > Bingo! It completed. > > > > So be careful when your / is running out and do make world/installworld. > > Disk space held by uncommitted deletes depending on other operations > is, by definition, not reusable until such time as the operations are > committed. Another way of looking at it is this: softupdates breaks the traditional "contract" (whether it was really a contract or not is for debate) that when a file removal completes, the disk space taken by the file is then immediately available for re-use. Instead, it is only guaranteed to become available a short time later in the future. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message