From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Apr 18 14:40: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de (mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de [139.13.25.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3BF37B6DB for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohoyer@fbwi.fh-wilhelmshaven.de) Received: from fettesau.stuwo.fh-wilhelmshaven.de (stuwopc5.stuwo.fh-wilhelmshaven.de [139.13.209.5]) by mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA19212; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:39:31 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <4.1.20000418231403.022c19f0@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de> X-Sender: ohoyer@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:28:36 +0200 To: "Dale E. Chulhan" From: Olaf Hoyer Subject: Re: Best NIC / Best CDR-CDRW Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <38FCAC4B.1B007400@uwi.tt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 14:41 18.04.00 -0400, you wrote: >Hello I'm opening my self for suggestions on recommendations for the following >for use on my bsd machine: > >1) a cdr/cdrw Hi! Well, if its for workstation use, Plextor, Teac and Toshiba are doing quality SCSI drives. Also Pioneer and ASUS have good reputation. For CD-R, at the moment Yamaha and Plextor seem to be first choice. >2) a NIC > >Can you also indicate the lowest release that supports your recommendation if >possible. > >The following is a brief exchange between me and a counter part, what is your >suggestion? > >He said: >======== >forget the expenive rubbish 3Com makes- they don't work well under windows and >barely works under linux... > >your best bet is the the generic NE2000 cards, you kno the cheap ones for >$125.00 (TT) you get the full 10MB per second out of them- also you can get a >cheap 8 port hub for about $400.00 (TT) > >I countered: >============ >1) Get Intel / 3Com if money's no objective "They're just as bad as cisco >routers" >2) Get either Realtek or DEC Tulip >3) Avoid the VIA Rhine chipset as they crumble under heavy loads >4) what about the NE2000 based cards? They're cheap, and they work. Good enough >for me :-) NE2K's are turd plain and simple dinosaurs from the ISA stone age >they work, that's all What does TT mean? One can get 100BaseTX cards (realtek chip) for about 40 DM here in Germany (~20 U$) But, with Realtek chips, especially PCI, lots of people are reporting problems. Yes, Ne2000 will work, especially if they operate under light load, no problem. cards from Netgear (Bay Networks) and D-Link have good reputation for being stable, and being not that expensive. Also Allied Telesyn did some good cards (Have used some old ones with AMD chip on them-smooth operation). Realtek is only favorite when it comes to budget, due to being build into el cheapo products, you get a higher RMA rate. DEC chipsets are fine, also found on some midpriced cards. But-what are those cards for? If you only want some little-stressed networking between your box and that of your buddy/children/roommate, then 10MBit shall be enough and cheap, also if sharing cable modem. For comparison prices in germany: El cheapo Realtek NIC: ISA/PCI 25 DM ~12,50 U$ El cheapo (mostly Realtek) 100MBit: 40 DM ~20 U$ Hub 10 MBIt 5-Port: 50 DM ~25 U$ Hub 100 Mbit 5-Port 180 DM 90 U$ D-Link NIC 10 Mbit 50DM.. 3com 509 bulk 120 DM Sometimes you get really noname, sometimes names like Lantech appear... Regards Olaf Hoyer -------- Olaf Hoyer www.nightfire.de mailto:Olaf.Hoyer@nightfire.de FreeBSD- Turning PC's into workstations ICQ:22838075 Liebe und Hass sind nicht blind, aber geblendet vom Feuer, dass sie selber mit sich tragen. (Nietzsche) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message