From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 16:58:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B819C16A4CE; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:58:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.server.rpi.edu (smtp2.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738F143D41; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:58:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp2.server.rpi.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i57Gw9IX021342; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 12:58:09 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <40C48BA8.6090005@freebsd.org> References: <40C36D31.4010003@freebsd.org> <20040606193510.GA95886@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net> <40C37F3C.1050602@freebsd.org> <20040606211249.GC96607@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net> <40C390C4.1000609@freebsd.org> <40C48BA8.6090005@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 12:58:07 -0400 To: Scott Long From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: Marcel Moolenaar Subject: Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:58:13 -0000 At 9:37 AM -0600 6/7/04, Scott Long wrote: >Garance A Drosihn wrote: >> >>I think you have to officially demote it, with emphasis on the >>point that "demotion is not a terminal condition". Then, if some >>developer(s) show up and implement all the missing pieces, we >>can happily announce it back in tier 1. >> >>But for now, say that it *IS* demoted. Not that you're advocating >>that we think about maybe demoting it in the future unless someone >>offers to start looking into the missing pieces. > >One thing to note is that whatever platforms get dropped from tier-1 >status will have a high probablility of not getting updated with the >upcoming binutils/gcc/gdb update that is coming. If that is the case, then you can not say "demotion is not a terminal condition". That sounds pretty terminal to me. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu