From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 15:58:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3548616A403 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F55213C46A for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so300879ugh for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 08:58:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=WDA8RjxCgDPQxu/uIQiWQplyVY3+Mi6NorUEt46HaFSjfElOXzSz3V+oiEvyWhB+8GrkwyBZRB+hl6TZEEtrj04PGg0wAQx+1haTDPBwjepn4mU7dy8jpIZE0v11gt28NJ9JhXmL5ICpxadwuCy4hrgBztg/WUcfb3vzeSRAOzA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hTED8MLuNfbSRZN7rnfBwmwKl9iYPLmgvmw03w27d9Sjl0kEoi9VE52lDKCbaJmKjiPmhpWzRYZoN0Pvt4m7rCmnRBjo50mleI36HwXJuZoVVhi/CHpVg0T1r0yFW315w9eSaDLDDjGtZuyhWqt5D+Fbo+KyF6JaioSZ33cb8u4= Received: by 10.67.115.7 with SMTP id s7mr347267ugm.1179415850536; Thu, 17 May 2007 08:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.24.16 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 08:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:30:50 +0100 From: Chris To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:58:23 -0000 I have mentioned this before about releasing a new major version of FreeBSD at such short intervals. Now I am wondering what path the FreeBSD community is taking in regards to server and desktop use. Stuff I would love to see in FreeBSD 7.x (CURRENT) before 7.0 release which looks like it isnt going to happen Multi IP Jails - waiting since 4.x, patches done for both 5.x and 6.x but never commited. Dynamic tcp windows - I think is patched but not heard if commited. More hardware support - FreeBSD still has poor hardware support when compared to other OS's, in particular vendors such as realtek nics. A more user friendly installer so datacentres stop been put off FreeBSD. Work on the network code so STABLE stops panicing and lagging on low amounts of ddos that 4.x barely flexed at and even 5.x could cope with. The recent ports freeze has also concerned me, this is the longest ports freeze I have witnessed since I started using FreeBSD years ago and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a result of this? The viability of upgrading FreeBSD to a new major version at least every 2 years is small, can choose not to upgrade as security patches will exist but ports only get supported on the latest STABLE tree now and I expect 5.x development will be killed off like 4.x was when 7.0 hits release. Why cant 7.0 be released when more long awaited features are added and then not as STABLE tree only as CURRENT (like 5.0 was) and if 7.0 is considered stable then 7.1 can be STABLE branch. I consider 6.2 to be the first release in 6.x branch close to proper stability and that release is under a year old before a new major release is due. Please dont flame me as I am a avid FreeBSD server user not a fan of linux so not been a troll this is a serious post. Chris