From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 23 08:12:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA02414 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA02363 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id KAA15826; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:11:02 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199609231511.KAA15826@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: splash-page on bootup.. To: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (Bill Paul) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:11:02 -0500 (CDT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199609231352.JAA18085@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> from "Bill Paul" at Sep 23, 96 09:51:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > [all other discussion snipped] > > Uh... guys? Guys?! > > There are a couple of things I'd like to say here, about how this > whole discussion is nothing more than a sad example of caving in to > the Micro$oft Mentality (tm) and how we really should be concentrating This was my first reaction too.. however I will not state that the Mac/Microsoft/Etc. ideas don't have some merit... OTOH, most people who would get warm fuzzies from this sort of thing are the sort of people who won't be using FreeBSD in the short term. > on more important things like fixing bugs and improving performance > before talking about stroking our egos with a pointless splash page, but > I'm going to put those things aside in favor or a more pressing issue. > > While you're all gushing all over yourselves with nifty splash page > ideas, you're forgetting that not every FreeBSD machine out there has > a graphics console. Yes boys and girls, some of us mutants actually > use dumb ASCII terminals for consoles, and if you fuck up our ability > to continue doing so, we will swoop down on you like... like... like I've usually threatened to drop relics on people from airplanes... this usually fails to make an impression on them until they've seen the relics in question :-) You would be suprised how many people these days haven't even seen something as modern as a (real) VT100. > mutant ASCII terminal console users, and take you to the Mutant ASCII > Terminal Console User King, who will undoubtedly be very unhappy. He's > already plenty miffed that we can't do a proper install from a serial > console. Agreed. ... JG