From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Sun Feb 19 12:39:36 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90882CE5FFF; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:39:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de) Received: from mailhost.dlr.de (mailhost.dlr.de [129.247.252.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailhost.dlr.de", Issuer "DLR CA - G02" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 031C0FF3; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de) Received: from DLREXHUB02.intra.dlr.de (172.21.152.140) by mailhost.dlr.de (172.21.163.100) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.319.2; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 13:38:20 +0100 Received: from DLREXMBX01.intra.dlr.de ([fe80::d198:77e5:d411:fccd]) by dlrexhub02.intra.dlr.de ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 13:38:22 +0100 From: To: , , Subject: RE: Calling ATM NIC users: en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), patm(4) Thread-Topic: Calling ATM NIC users: en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), patm(4) Thread-Index: AQHSiYcEUGL/599z6UuN7jV0xZLm0KFwRbuQ Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:38:21 +0000 Message-ID: <611243783F62AF48AFB07BC25FA4B1061CEEA14D@DLREXMBX01.intra.dlr.de> References: <20170218013250.GA72688@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: <20170218013250.GA72688@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-11.0.0.4283-8.100.1062-22894.006 X-TM-AS-Result: No--12.364100-5.000000-31 X-TM-AS-MatchedID: 150567-150675-709584-708497-701249-707800-702920-701618-7 00726-106420-700075-701588-708597-707163-702192-703747-186035-703010-139006 -704287-700486-704746-106660-700752-701594-863148-704156-703997-704416-8639 16-703267-700755-703352-700604-706117-701757-106230-187088-708212-139704-70 8196-701100-862222-148004-148050-42000-42003-52000 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:39:36 -0000 Hi, there is a freebsd-atm mailing list (at least there used to be). Should hav= e been sent there too. On the topic: I'd say: remove it. As the one who wrote/refactored much of t= hat stuff I get approximately one support request per year. The problem is,= that I can't really help, since while I have all of that equipment still a= vailable, I don't have any time to do anything with it. So the entire ATM s= tack is basically unsupported. harti@ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org] = On Behalf Of Brooks Davis Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 2:33 AM To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Calling ATM NIC users: en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), patm(4) Our current ATM stack supports a small number of NICs that were current in = the late 90s[0]. None of them have been manufactured in a long time and wh= ile you can buy hatm(4) devices on e-bay, it's increasingly difficult to fi= nd a motherboard that will accept them. I'd like to propose removing support for these NICs along with the remainin= g ATM stack in FreeBSD 12. This will give any existing users a supported O= S until at least September 30, 2021 per our published EOL date for FreeBSD = 11. Would removal on this schedule cause you realistic hardship? If so, please= let us know. -- Brooks [0] 1997 press release for the most advanced ATM NIC we support http://www.= prnewswire.com/news-releases/fore-systems-introduces-industrys-most-advance= d-atm-adapter-for-enterprise-networking-77407267.html