From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 22:27:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FA416A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:27:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdwicker@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A4613C441 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdwicker@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so264370wri for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:27:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PRSwBo5g6L8E5h5CUTRiqjA5MYCFCVJCXcsOllobxWYFlXaULwncaxCWJPVNGubdu2iQ0AKuzULKmuku6IvEuZLRyugvuKLwuBBVZbKnZrcMxHBI8qOcu48qWSGRb7zhMts8cjPEDih+wAUQDFrRt/97fGAc5XZbav9EzEuSpJM= Received: by 10.90.78.1 with SMTP id a1mr1395953agb.1169677643183; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.104.7 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:27:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2d19405f0701241427s35f3c60eo56d319e540c832e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:27:23 -0800 From: "FreeBSD WickerBill" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070124154447.A6DA013C4C7@mx1.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45B77988.2060805@u.washington.edu> <20070124154447.A6DA013C4C7@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Remote Desktop Connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:27:24 -0000 On 1/24/07, Grzegorz Pluta wrote: > > Thanks for all the replies guys! > It was really helpful > Cheers, > Greg > > > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > Grzegorz Pluta wrote: > >> Hi. > >> Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with freebsd? > >> Which > >> client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env > >> have you > >> been using it? > > > > I use Xorg & XFCE4 on my FreeBSD desktop(s). For remote desktop > > connections: > > > > FreeBSD -> FreeBSD: ssh with X11 forwarding (-X or -Y options, see > > manpage). > > > > FreeBSD -> Windows: rdesktop (/usr/ports/net/rdesktop). Works > > beautifully for work. Can't recall which, but some games don't seem to > > like it. > > > > Windows -> FreeBSD: freeXer and PuTTY with X11 forwarding enabled. Kind > > of interesting to have my FreeBSD desktop apps on my wife's lappy at the > > breakfast table ;-). With this setup, Windows actually is the "window > > manager" --- kinda disconcerting at first glance :-D > > > > Kevin Kinsey > > Overall, as many have suggest on the list there are a number of caveats > to using different means of connecting. > > Here's a short rundown with all of my comments: > > rdesktop and krdc (KDE rdesktop) work for connecting to Windows NT 5.0+ > servers. Don't have a Windows server that meets that spec? Probably > won't need rdesktop/krdc then.. Don't install krdc unless you also want > to install KDE. > > X11 forwarding through ssh is great when you're connections between you > and the remote machine are relatively fast (fast up on the server, fast > down on the client). Compression with ssh (-C flag--not available on all > ssh or ssh2 implementations) is a good idea when using this to connect > remotely because there's a lot of data that gets piped through an X11 > connection. > > VNC is better for keeping remote sessions active after disconnecting > from the machine. There are many VNC servers software titles, but you > will either probably look into tightvnc (creates a new X session per > instance), or x11vnc (connects to an existing X session on your > machine). Quality, speed and latency are an issue here as VNC is sort of > bad at caching tiles on the desktop. Using a lightweight wm or desktop > is a wise idea though without a desktop picture and sticking to X11 only > widgets (xclock, xterm, etc) is a good idea as the redraw is better than > gtk or qt apps or other programs (firefox, thunderbird). Try to wrap the > connection using portforwarding via SSH if you're logged in from a large > LAN or over a WAN because everything sent with tightvnc is cleartext, so > passwords, credit card numbers, etc can be sniffed by a knowledgeable > individual. > > I'm still amazed that nomachinex hasn't been ported to FreeBSD, but it's > a complete binary release of a 'hacked' X11 system, so the devs at the > nomachine group probably haven't gotten around to porting it yet. > > Cheers, > - -Garrett > - It's in the ports. portless nxserver This is a port of NoMachine's NX server, which is a way to use X connections over slow links without noticeable lag. WWW: http://www.nomachine.com I use it daily from a windows client to home computer running PC-BSD (KDE) It runs much faster than I could ever get VNC to run. I use rdesktop going from FreeBSD to Windows and it works fine too.