From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 2 17:52:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BADE16A41C for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 17:52:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.mercer@achean.com) Received: from ajax.achean.com (ajax.achean.com [212.87.82.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA31143D1F for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 17:52:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.mercer@achean.com) Received: from ajax.achean.com (ajax.achean.com [212.87.82.16]) by ajax.achean.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j52Hq3b6036120 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Jun 2005 18:52:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jon.mercer@achean.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by ajax.achean.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j52Hq2Ro036119; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 18:52:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jon.mercer@achean.com) X-Authentication-Warning: ajax.achean.com: www set sender to jon.mercer@achean.com using -f Received: from 217.33.199.34 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jon.mercer) by webmail.achean.com with HTTP; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 18:52:02 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <60053.217.33.199.34.1117734722.squirrel@webmail.achean.com> In-Reply-To: <20050602100934.Y20286@Osgiliath.home.lan> References: <429EF96E.16172.33600ABA@localhost> <20050602100934.Y20286@Osgiliath.home.lan> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 18:52:02 +0100 (BST) From: "Jon Mercer" To: "Neal E. Westfall" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=RM_KNOWN_WEBMAIL autolearn=failed version=3.0.3-achean_mailfilter_v1.00 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3-achean_mailfilter_v1.00 (2005-04-27) on ajax.achean.com Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Negative Review of FreeBSD 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:52:07 -0000 On Thu, June 2, 2005 18:47, Neal E. Westfall said: >>> Anybody have any thoughts on this review? >>> >>> http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/24/2153257&tid=8 >> >> I suggest you provide your thoughts first. > > Well, as I run FreeBSD on older 32-bit hardware, I have not seen some of > the problems the author mentions, so my thoughts on the article will be > somewhat limited. The impression the author gives is that the 4.X branch > was more stable, but it doesn't appear that the author has actually used > the 4.X branch. It probably isn't really a fair comparison anyway, as the > 4.X branch doesn't support the hardware he was trying to use. > > I would have liked to see how a major linux distribution or two would have > fared on the same hardware. I don't think that the reviewer really did > extensive enough testing to be able to render a fair review, as he was > using some pretty bleading edge hardware, and it is not clear from the > review whether linux would have fared much better. > > Then again, as a FreeBSD user myself for a good 15 years or so, I am > probably a little biased towards FreeBSD. Maybe linux is rock-solid on a > 64-bit platform. It appears to be pretty stable at my jobsite, where we > run 64-bit Linux on two Altix servers, but they do freeze up every once in > a while, maybe once every 2-3 months, requiring a hardware reset. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > The same reviewer did a review of OpenBSD a couple of articles previously: http://os.newsforge.com/os/05/05/20/1426216.shtml?tid=8 On the whole his experience looked worse than with FreeBSD, but the tone of the OBSD article was more favorable. Anyone else notice this? Jem Matzan just seems to be anti-FreeBSD. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Achean Ltd http://www.achean.com Jon Mercer jon.mercer@achean.com Director -----------------------------------------------------------------------