From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 8 22:10:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22718 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:10:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA22684 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:10:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA01668; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:15:15 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199810090515.BAA01668@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: BETA problems To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:15:14 -0400 (EDT) Cc: joelh@gnu.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199810090125.SAA02069@dingo.cdrom.com> from "Mike Smith" at Oct 8, 98 06:25:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Mike Smith had to walk into mine and say: > > Mike Smith writes: > > > > >> At the beginning of this weekend, I started installing the 0928 > > >> beta. Due to phone line quality issues out here, it took two days, > > >> and ended with me installing the necessary stuff plus the (then > > >> released) 1002 source, and then doing a make world. (One suggestion: > > >> If an install fails due to a network failure, restart at the block > > >> instead of at the distribution.) > > > Owing to the way the blocks are compressed, you can't do this. You > > > have to start at the beginning. > > > > I haven't studied this closely, but Gary said that it's because the > > entire segment is a single gzipped stream, and that doing so would > > cause a restart midstream. > > > > I just glanced over the zlib sources, and started wondering. Would it > > be possible to copy the state of the decompression engine, in > > anticipation of failure? How expensive would it be? > > We don't have access to that state, because tar forks copy of gzip to > do its work. If we were doing the decompression internally, I think it > would be reasonably straightforward. > > > >> In the release notes, we say that the 3C509 is supported. > > >> Preliminary tests indicate that the ep0 driver in the 10/02 beta is > > >> in less of a functioning state than ever. (Does anybody know how to > > >> get the blasted 3C509 programmers' specs?) > > > Write to 3com. > > > > Okay. They haven't responded, so I was wondering. > > You might want to ask Bill Paul (wpaul@freebsd.org) who he has spoken > to there; I know he didn't have too much trouble getting the '590 docs. Well, that may have been because I put down "Columbia University" under "organization" in the order form. :) (Well, I _do_ work there.) (And it was the 905 docs, not the 590. Yes, I know, it's confusing: the 3c509 is an ISA card, the 3c905 is a PCI card, and there are all sorts of others in between.) Who knows how long it would have taken if I had said "FreeBSD Inc." instead. :) Anyway. I started out by calling up 3Com tech support on the phone. After eventually navigating my way to a human, they opened up a support call for me and eventually I was told that the thing to do is to call their faxback service and request the "developer's order form" which I believe is document #9070. This form has a list of technical manuals you can order; you should be able to request the docs for the 3c509/509B, the 3c59x and the 3c90x cards. You can even request manuals for the 3c503 Etherlink II and earlier cards. Note that the form that I originally got from the faxback system was old and did not list the 3c90x cards, however I sent e-mail to Terry_Murphy@3Com.com and she informed me that the form was out of date and that I could just write in that I wanted the 3c90x manual at the bottom of the page and fax it in anyway. I received my manuals by Airborne Express a couple days later. Along with the manuals was a newer version of the order form with the 3c90x cards included. Once you have the form filled in, fax it back to the number printed on the form and wait. 3Com should ship you the manuals in short order, free of charge. There's no non-disclosure nonsense to sign (unlike _some_ vendors I could mention; are you listening Intel?). There's also a contact number for Terry listed on the form in case you have questions. Note that I did order copies of the 3c509 manuals just for giggles. I actually have a spare one that I don't need. If somebody wants it, and can't get one from 3Com for some reason, I can be pursuaded to drop it in the mail. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message