From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Oct 15 17:45:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA21002 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 17:45:47 -0700 Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA20996 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 17:45:45 -0700 Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA08429 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Mon, 16 Oct 1995 04:31:35 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Mon, 16 Oct 95 04:31:35 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.demos.ru (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA01086; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 03:31:12 +0300 To: hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.org, "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" Cc: Joerg Wunsch References: <199510160006.UAA06783@exalt.x.org> In-Reply-To: <199510160006.UAA06783@exalt.x.org>; from "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" at Sun, 15 Oct 1995 20:06:30 EST Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 03:31:11 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: A couple problems in FreeBSD 2.1.0-950922-SNAP Lines: 27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1383 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199510160006.UAA06783@exalt.x.org> Kaleb S. KEITHLEY writes: >> Either make it right, or let it be. >Define right! I don't see it as wrong to populate the right half of the >default chartype table with values that are useful in some particular >locale -- in this case "C". No more wrong than leaving them blank. It >is merely a convenience simple programs be able to do something useful >for the majority of the users. Is the customer always right? If a >particular tool isn't very useful in the general case, a customer might >choose another another tool that is, in the general case, more useful. What you mean by majority? Russian users amount is comparable with all european users, why not extend default table to KOI8-R instead? Seriously, pure ASCII variant need to be keeped in any case, and it is only one valid *default* case, because it is subset for almost all known charsets. Preferring one particular charset among others leeds into various troubles. I dislike X idea to have ISO8859-1 as default charset and think that they need to change it to ASCII. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849