From owner-cvs-all Thu Sep 13 12:47:54 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97DF37B406; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8DJkfT75857; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:46:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: brian@freebsd-services.com Cc: paul@freebsd-services.com, will@physics.purdue.edu, imp@freebsd.org, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pccard pccard.c pcic.c pcic_pci.c pcicvar.h In-Reply-To: <200109131908.f8DJ8rd94723@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> References: <200109131908.f8DJ8rd94723@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010913124641B.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:46:41 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 32 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I think it's a bit unfair to challenge people like this. People > contribute to FreeBSD in more ways than just coding.... commit counts > aren't proportional to project participation. Not to pick on you Brian, but everytime someone has the temerity to suggest that coding contributions DO matter, especially when we're so demonstrably and critically short of such resources, somebody else pops up and ignites this same tired smoke screen of denial and it sucks. Sure, there are other ways in which the project can be improved other than coding - documentation can be written and new software can be added to the ports collection or updated in place. But each of those examples have one very important thing in common - they represent a significant and visible investment in the project, the kind of investment which is important not just for its own sake but for the message it sends to others that things ARE happening and progress is being made. Let's also not forget that these sorts of "put up or shut up" criticisms aren't generally made in a vacuum, with somebody just deciding to pop his cork out of the blue and suggest that maybe people should start writing some code or docs or whatever. They're made in reaction to some self-appointed policeman waving his arms around and telling others how to do their work under the mistaken impression that this is a "contribution" which somehow measures up to that of those actually DOING the work. I'm sorry, but no matter how you try to spin reality and alter the terms of our social contract in such a way that the project gestapo are now considered equivalent to the hard-core developers, it just doesn't make it so. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message