From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sun Mar 5 09:24:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DB2CF8839 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2017 09:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmi@dsl-only.net) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-mail-211-197.reflexion.net [208.70.211.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF40715EA for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2017 09:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmi@dsl-only.net) Received: (qmail 15707 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2017 09:23:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-02.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.2) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 5 Mar 2017 09:23:54 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-02.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v8.30.2) with SMTP; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 04:23:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20576 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2017 09:23:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 5 Mar 2017 09:23:54 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.111] (c-67-170-167-181.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.170.167.181]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5EB4EEC7822; Sun, 5 Mar 2017 01:23:53 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: PowerMac G5 and KMS From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 01:23:52 -0800 Cc: Justin Hibbits , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD PowerPC ML , hiroo.ono+freebsd@gmail.com, Debian powerpc Mailinglist Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <89E0CCAB-1218-4962-BA55-6C76D8CE7E07@dsl-only.net> References: <4EA794E6-D435-4958-853C-5421E03F3B46@dsl-only.net> To: Joe Nosay X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 09:24:01 -0000 On 2017-Mar-4, at 10:50 PM, Joe Nosay wrote: > This will bounce for the ppc list. > As I have stated before: you will need to work with the debian ppc = group to create the proper drivers. > Since there are people who know how to make the Linux system calls, = there should be people that are willing to > work across OS and mailing list lines. > Just don't be stubborn. I'm not pursuing X11 now and am not likely to for a long time. (Although I'm willing to run head FreeBSD experiments when I happen to have access to the proper equipment. I've done so in the past. Head FreeBSD just because that is what I have set up as an established environment.) My FreeBSD time goes mostly into: A) Finding and reporting clang related problems blocking use of clang as FreeBSD's system compiler for powerpc64 and powerpc. B) Finding evidence about problems for arm64 and possibly arm, as well as for other powerpc64 and powerpc problems that are not clang/toolchain ones. These tends to be for basic system types of things --things that lead to problems with self-hosted rebuilds or with amd64->??? cross builds. C) Similar to (A)/(B) but for the xtoolchain support for buildworld buildkernel, not necessarily limited to powerpc64 and powerpc but also possibly arm64 or arm. As a side effect of these activities I end up discovering and reporting evidence for more (such as in ports that I happen to use in the process). For now I do not want to dilute my time on these things with time on X11 as a directly-targeted activity. This is why I gave up on such earlier: it was taking time from what I was more interested in. (Again: I am willing to run head FreeBSD experiments when I happen to have access to the right equipment.) > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Mark Millard = wrote: > On 2017-Mar-2, at 9:37 AM, Justin Hibbits = wrote: >=20 > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 5:42 AM, Hiroo Ono (=E5=B0=8F=E9=87=8E=E5=AF=9B= =E7=94=9F) > > wrote: > >> I recently installed 12-current powerpc64 r313561 to a PowerMac G5 > >> (it is dual processor, but I do not know its detail). > >> > >> When I try to load drm2.ko and radeonkms.ko, > >> the screen turns into black and recovers, then the system locks. > >> kldload command does not return, no response to keyboard input, = etc. > >> > >> Is it possible to use KMS on FreeBSD/powerpc64? > >> > >> The log in /var/log/messages is > >> > >> after "kldload drm2", > >> > >> kernel: info: [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 > >> > >> and then, after "kldload radeonkms", > >> > >> kernel: iic0: on iicbus0 > >> kernel: iic1: on iicbus1 > >> kernel: drmn0: on vgapci0 > >> kernel: info: [drm] RADEON_IS_AGP > >> kernel: info: [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (RV350 = 0x1002:0x4150 > >> 0x1002:0x4150). > >> kernel: info: [drm] register mmio base: 0x90000000 > >> kernel: info: [drm] register mmio size: 65536 > >> kernel: info: [drm] igp_read_bios_from_vram: =3D=3D=3D> Try IGP's = VRAM... > >> kernel: info: [drm] igp_read_bios_from_vram: VRAM base address: = 0x98000000 > >> kernel: info: [drm] igp_read_bios_from_vram: Map address: > >> 0xc000000061412000 (262144 bytes) > >> kernel: info: [drm] igp_read_bios_from_vram: Incorrect BIOS = signature: > >> 0x0000 > >> kernel: info: [drm] radeon_read_bios: =3D=3D=3D> Try PCI Expansion = ROM... > >> kernel: info: [drm] radeon_read_bios: Map address: = 0xc000000061412000 > >> (131072 bytes) > >> kernel: info: [drm] radeon_read_bios: Incorrect BIOS signature: = 0x2AFF > >> kernel: info: [drm] legacy_read_disabled_bios: =3D=3D=3D> Try = disabled BIOS > >> (legacy)... > >> kernel: info: [drm] radeon_read_bios: =3D=3D=3D> Try PCI Expansion = ROM... > >> kernel: info: [drm] radeon_read_bios: Map address: = 0xc000000061412000 > >> (131072 bytes) > >> > >> As the system locks up here, I have to power it off forcibly. > > > > Congratulations (?) you are quite possibly the first person to = report > > even attempting to use radeonkms on powerpc64. Frankly, I'm not > > surprised that it doesn't work for you. Unfortunately, I don't have = a > > solution, or even a means to track it down. Looking at the log > > snippet, my first guess is there may need to be a provision added to > > the driver for non-x86. Do you know what card this is? > > > > Adding a couple other lists with people who might have more insight. > > > > If it can be made to work, I'd definitely want to get a Radeon card = for my G5(s) > > > > - Justin >=20 > Back on 2014-Nov-21 I wrote the following in one of my messages on the > lists on that day: >=20 > > FYI: I've been building and trying Jean-S=C3=A9bastien P=C3=A9dron's = kms-drm-update-38 branch when Jean requested (sometimes with patches = that Jean provided). This was to give Jean some (indirect) access to a = powerpc64 (PowerMac G5) Radeon context for some radeonkms development. = (Jean had been hoping to get my card going in that context.) We got to = the point that a kldload for radeonkms did not complain/refuse but the = display was then munged up and the driver could not find the Video BIOS. = The fact that it is a Radeon X1950 for the video hardware may make it = odder than usual for PowerMac G5 Radeons. But it is the only Radeon that = I have access to for G5's. (The card works in Mac OS X 10.5.) >=20 > (As I remember this was a PowerMac G5 so-called "Quad Core" as the G5 > context. I do not currently have access to the X1950 card.) >=20 > I'm not sure from what I read if things are about the same vs. if = things > are worse now. I do not remember the details from back then, such as > console vs. X11 that I was not explicit about in the quoted material. >=20 > I eventually gave up on using X11 "for a time" --and have not tried = again > so far. I've no clue about the current status for X11 on PowerMacs of > any kind --or what I'd need to do to try it for the Radeon X1950 or > any NVIDIA cards. (Currently an NVIDIA card is installed.) >=20 > I will eventually have access to the X1950 again, but not soon. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net