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Date:      Thu, 17 Jan 2019 14:25:07 -0800
From:      Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@freebsd.org>
To:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
Cc:        "Conrad E. Meyer" <cem@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org,  svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r343118 - in head/usr.sbin: . trim
Message-ID:  <CAH7qZftZnugWaerpBdjCDapYfwmbm85r4fXQkR0eze02DkcyuQ@mail.gmail.com>
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What I think we really need is some way to easily porti-ze useful stuff
that would otherwise go into /usr/[s]bin, so adding things would be just as
easy as hooking up SUBDIR into usr.[s]bin/Makefile. Yes, I know, this is
topic almost as old as the FreeBSD Project itself, but perhaps we just did
not approach it the right way. It was always the idea that we would just
move bunch of stuff from src/usr.[s]bin repo into ports/. Which brings
several important question such as "who is to host the distfile"? "where
sources hosted", "who is to update the port when changes happen?" etc.

Perhaps even by forking the whole ports idea into a smaller closely-guarged
subset. Something like a new baseports repository, which might have
structure like baseports/usr.bin/xxx, baseports/usr.sbin/yyy etc. Then add
some automagic glue to kick in on every commit and transfer this into valid
ports, which is going to be packaged by the poudriere and such. This way we
could reduce amount of port-foo average src committer needs in order to
maintain code. I am almost tempted to sit and write something over the next
weekend or few of thereofs. Using usr.sbin/trim as an example.

-Max

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 12:47 PM Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
wrote:

> In message <CAG6CVpX78rHMtWTm97We50qy_D2jX79upn-9TjMy90cZeyVecQ@mail.gma
> il.com>
> , Conrad Meyer writes:
> > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 12:22 PM Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
> wrot
> > e:
> > > This is wrong. IIRC there was discussion that this should be in dd(1).
> > > Why not submit a revision to add the functionality to dd?
> >
> > Well, it's wrong, but not because we need another weird dd mode.  dd
> > is hard enough to use already.
>
> I've never found dd confusing. What's wrong conv=erase?
>
> If it must stay, sderase is a better name. That's really what it does.
>
> Ports maybe?
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
> FreeBSD UNIX:  <cy@FreeBSD.org>   Web:  http://www.FreeBSD.org
>
>         The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.
>
>
>
>



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