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Date:      Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:46:51 +0100
From:      Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
To:        Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>
Cc:        Ronald Klop <ronald@freebsd.org>, ports <ports@freebsd.org>
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Oh no,man,I don't think I'm. My job is totally different than yours. I'm a
psychologist. My training has been totally different. In your opinion, can
I make a job totally different from yours ? If it was true,so,ok,you can
analyze the people's mindset without a problem. You can get two jobs,you
can earn two incomes. Why don't you make it ? I like to play with
linux-freebsd as a hobby. I can learn what I don't know ? Sure,for those
tasks that are of low-medium difficulties only. So,I should even hire
someone,spending money. You didn't understand my position. I don't earn
enough money even to live day by day. In your opinion,can I spend money on
that ? In addition,It works under Windows and Linux. So,this is another
reason to not spend money on it. And again : I don't work in any
company,I'm not motivated enough even for "intellectual" reasons. Try to
forget me for a while and try to reply to my question : who has more
responsibility in this kind of situation where there is something to do to
fill the gap between the pytorch and the freebsd developers ? thanks.

Il giorno lun 21 nov 2022 alle ore 17:20 Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> ha
scritto:

> you are :-) as the interested person :-)
>
> we all voluntarily share results our work with others.. just keep in mind
> that free software is not free to develop its only free to share :-)
>
> if you really need to make it work on FreeBSD and you cannot make it on
> your own you can search for someone to hire to do the job :-)
>
> --
> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 15:48 Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Who has more responsibility in this kind of situation where there is
>> something to do to fill the gap ? the pytorch or the freebsd developers ?
>>
>> Il giorno lun 21 nov 2022 alle ore 15:26 Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>
>> ha scritto:
>>
>>> yes that is what i was talking about
>>>
>>> --
>>> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 13:27 Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've started a thread on the pytorch forum that you can read here :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://discuss.pytorch.org/t/the-installation-of-stable-diffusion-web-ui-natively-on-freebsd-fails-because-cant-install-torch-and-torchvision/166395/6
>>>>
>>>> he proposes to "build PyTorch from source" ; have you considered trying
>>>> that ?
>>>>
>>>> Il giorno dom 20 nov 2022 alle ore 22:28 Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>
>>>> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 8:57 AM Ronald Klop wrote:
>>>>> > On 11/19/22 17:45, Tomek CEDRO wrote:
>>>>> > >  From the /usr/ports/math/py-pytorchvideo/Makefile is seems that
>>>>> > > MAINTAINER= ports[at]FreeBSD.org so someone on this list created
>>>>> the
>>>>> > > port.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Well, this actually means the port has no maintainer so all mail
>>>>> goes to the mailing list. Often this happens when the creator of the port
>>>>> does not have the possibility to maintain it anymore and no new maintainer
>>>>> is found.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Ronald :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Mario, I have tried quickly build the PyTorch on FreeBSD but it did
>>>>> not build out of the box.. that means more work is required to run it
>>>>> here.. considering size of the project a person more familiar and
>>>>> interested needs to be found that would create and maintain the
>>>>> PyTorch related ports, sorry, at this point you can try to request a
>>>>> build for FreeBSD on the upstream (but there may be no interest) and
>>>>> use other platform to get things working straight away.. you can also
>>>>> spend some time to make it work on FreeBSD what could be a nice
>>>>> learning process :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mario.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Mario.
>>
>

-- 
Mario.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Oh no,man,I don&#39;t think I&#39;m. My job is totall=
y different than yours. I&#39;m a psychologist. My training has been totall=
y different. In your opinion, can I make a job totally different from yours=
 ? If it was true,so,ok,you can analyze the people&#39;s mindset without a =
problem. You can get two jobs,you can earn two incomes. Why don&#39;t you m=
ake it ? I like to play with linux-freebsd as a hobby. I can learn what I d=
on&#39;t know ? Sure,for those tasks that are of low-medium difficulties on=
ly. So,I should even hire someone,spending money. You didn&#39;t understand=
 my position. I don&#39;t earn enough money even to live day by day. In you=
r opinion,can I spend money on that ? In addition,It works under Windows an=
d Linux. So,this is another reason to not spend money on it. And again : I =
don&#39;t work in any company,I&#39;m not motivated enough even for<span cl=
ass=3D"gmail-Y2IQFc" lang=3D"en"> &quot;intellectual&quot; reasons. Try to =
forget me for a while and try to reply to my question :</span> who has more=
 responsibility in this kind of situation where there is=20
something to do to fill the gap between the pytorch and the freebsd develop=
ers ? thanks.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">Il giorno lun 21 nov 2022 alle ore 17:20 Tomek CEDRO &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:tomek@cedro.info">tomek@cedro.info</a>&gt; ha scritto:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"=
>you are :-) as the interested person :-)<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"auto">we all voluntarily share results our work with others.. just ke=
ep in mind that free software is not free to develop its only free to share=
 :-)</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">if you really need =
to make it work on FreeBSD and you cannot make it on your own you can searc=
h for someone to hire to do the job :-)<br><br><div dir=3D"auto">--<br>CeDe=
ROM, SQ7MHZ, <a href=3D"http://www.tomek.cedro.info" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.tomek.cedro.info</a></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 15:48 Mario Ma=
rietto &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mari=
etto2008@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Who has more responsibility in this kind=
 of situation where there is something to do to fill the gap ? the pytorch =
or the freebsd developers ? <br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Il giorno lun 21 nov 2022 alle ore 15:26 To=
mek CEDRO &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tomek@cedro.info" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">tomek@cedro.info</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">yes that is what i was t=
alking about<br><br><div>--<br>CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, <a href=3D"http://www.tomek=
.cedro.info" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.tomek.cedro.in=
fo</a></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 13:27 Mario Marietto &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:marietto2008@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">marietto2008=
@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I&#39;ve started a thread on the pytorch f=
orum that you can read here :</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://d=
iscuss.pytorch.org/t/the-installation-of-stable-diffusion-web-ui-natively-o=
n-freebsd-fails-because-cant-install-torch-and-torchvision/166395/6" rel=3D=
"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://discuss.pytorch.org/t/the=
-installation-of-stable-diffusion-web-ui-natively-on-freebsd-fails-because-=
cant-install-torch-and-torchvision/166395/6</a></div><div><br></div><div>he=
 proposes to &quot;build=20
PyTorch from source&quot; ; have you considered trying that ?<br></div></di=
v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Il g=
iorno dom 20 nov 2022 alle ore 22:28 Tomek CEDRO &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tome=
k@cedro.info" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tomek@cedro.i=
nfo</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex">On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 8:57 AM Ronald Klop wrote:<br>
&gt; On 11/19/22 17:45, Tomek CEDRO wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 From the /usr/ports/math/py-pytorchvideo/Makefile is seems =
that<br>
&gt; &gt; MAINTAINER=3D ports[at]FreeBSD.org so someone on this list create=
d the<br>
&gt; &gt; port.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Well, this actually means the port has no maintainer so all mail goes =
to the mailing list. Often this happens when the creator of the port does n=
ot have the possibility to maintain it anymore and no new maintainer is fou=
nd.<br>
<br>
Thank you Ronald :-)<br>
<br>
Mario, I have tried quickly build the PyTorch on FreeBSD but it did<br>
not build out of the box.. that means more work is required to run it<br>
here.. considering size of the project a person more familiar and<br>
interested needs to be found that would create and maintain the<br>
PyTorch related ports, sorry, at this point you can try to request a<br>
build for FreeBSD on the upstream (but there may be no interest) and<br>
use other platform to get things working straight away.. you can also<br>
spend some time to make it work on FreeBSD what could be a nice<br>
learning process :-)<br>
<br>
-- <br>
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, <a href=3D"http://www.tomek.cedro.info" rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.tomek.cedro.info</a><br=
>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr">Mario.<br>=
</div>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr">Mario.<br>=
</div>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature">Mario.<br></div>

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