From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 3 14:54:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7486A14A16 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:54:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA07478; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:55:45 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:55:45 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Lord Isildur Cc: alpha@freebsd.org, port-alpha@netbsd.org Subject: Re: Q: Compaq, *BSD and 'Linux-only' AlphaBIOS (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I agreee. On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Lord Isildur wrote: > > I consider SRM to be the way to go, and i think instead the convoluted > hacks that things like MILO had to go through are the rsult of using the > ARC/ALphaBIOS _instead_ of using SRM. Now that Compaq has released SRMs > for so many more models and eliminated the need to buy the developer kit, > i see no reason to consider ARC anymore _at all_. It was a cheap second > best rigged up so that NT could work on Alphas, and I dont see why we need > to try to cater on NT's inadequacies and start using ARC/AlphaBIOS or the > workarounds to it like MILO. SRM is the 'high class' firmware, whatever, > it is available and is superior to ARC/AB. BSD has used SRM since the > beginning- why should we dilute that now, especially when some of the last > arguments for it have lost their bite? > > just my $.02, > isildur > > On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:47:27 -0800 > > From: Richard Henderson > > Reply-To: axp-list@redhat.com > > To: "warp@xs4all.nl" > > Cc: axp-list@redhat.com > > Subject: Re: Q: Compaq, *BSD and 'Linux-only' AlphaBIOS > > Resent-Date: 3 Dec 1999 21:15:44 -0000 > > Resent-From: axp-list@redhat.com > > Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; > > > > On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 02:02:29PM +0100, warp@xs4all.nl wrote: > > > 1) Is anybody planning to make MILO work with NetBSD*; > > > > >From what I could tell from browsing the OpenBSD source, the only > > thing standing in the way of the BSDs booting off MILO is their > > reliance on SRM callbacks for printing to the console during the > > early boot process. And some bits that read the SRM environment > > variables to snag the kernel command line and such. > > > > It shouldn't be terribly hard to either implement the SRM callbacks > > in MILO or (conditionally) avoid them in the BSD kernel. The former > > would of course be more helpful. > > certainly, if anyone _needs_ to use BSD with MILO for some strange reason, > it'd be better to modify MILO than BSD. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message