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Date:      Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:41:58 -1000
From:      David Cornejo <dave@dogwood.com>
To:        John Hay <jhay@meraka.org.za>, gnn@freebsd.org
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ipv6 host routes
Message-ID:  <7.0.1.0.2.20060904152932.024c4b78@dogwood.com>
In-Reply-To: <20060904072313.GA83757@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za>
References:  <20060903132214.GA40993@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za> <m21wqsgzer.wl%gnn@neville-neil.com> <20060904072313.GA83757@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za>

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as the author of the route code in olsr I can explain what I was trying to do:

for routing purposes what we need are point-to-point routes, the 
subnets on the mesh interfaces are there only to facilitate 
broadcasting the routing packets.  because of the way freebsd is 
wired, to support multiple interfaces i resorted to a raw packet library.

i never much liked this, but it works

the reason for the broadcast is to provide an undirected address to 
send packets to that everyone would receive.  with no subnet we'd 
have to send OLSR packets to each and every other host we're directly 
connected to.

if i had to do it over again, i'd probably use multicast.  i actually 
used another protocol (TBRPF) and IPv4 multicast successfully in a 
prior project.  multicast would eliminate the need for subnetting and 
would cope with the problem you have with multiple host interfaces 
that have the same address but aren't connected to each other.

dave c

At 09:23 PM 9/3/2006, John Hay wrote:
>On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:04:44AM +0900, gnn@freebsd.org wrote:
> > At Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:22:14 +0200,
> > John Hay wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Does anybody know how to add a direct IPv6 host route that 
> actually works?
> > > What I mean is not through a gateway, but for one directly reachable.
> > >
> > > I know it normally isn't needed because it will just work, but I'm
> > > trying to add FreeBSD IPv6 capability to net/olsrd. It looks like I have
> > > most of the rest working, but this is one of the last things tripping
> > > me up.
>...
> > >
> > > So anybody that know how to add a direct IPv6 host route on FreeBSD?
> > >
> >
> > Can you show us the commands, network layout and the output of netstat
> > -r and ndp -a?
>
>Well maybe I should start with how it works on IPv4. You can see the code
>in work/olsrd-0.4.10/src/bsd/kernel_routes.c if you extract the net/olsrd
>port. In the case where the machine is directly connected, ie. not through
>a gateway, a network route with a /32 netmask is added with the cloning
>flag. So if you use the 10.1.9.0/24 network and have two hosts that can
>"see" each other, 10.1.9.1 and 10.1.9.2, on 10.1.9.1 you will see a route
>like this added:
>
>10.1.9.2/32        link#2             UC          0        0   ath1
>
>and as soon as there is traffic the arp will cause this:
>
>10.1.9.2           00:02:6f:34:21:a2  UHLW        2  2286102   ath1   1176 =>
>
>So I guess I want to imitate something like this in a way that the linux
>boxes that also run olsr can interoperate.
>
>My current test setup have 3 boxes on the 2001:4200:7000:15:: subnet, so
>ifconfig on rtrg looks like this:
>
>################
>ath0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>         inet6 fe80::202:6fff:fe22:9547%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
>         inet6 2001:4200:7000:15:202:6fff:fe22:9547 prefixlen 64
>         inet6 2001:4200:7000:15:: prefixlen 64 anycast
>         ether 00:02:6f:22:95:47
>         media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect <adhoc> 
> (autoselect <adhoc>)
>         status: associated
>         ssid koppiemesh channel 149 bssid 02:02:6f:41:19:27
>         authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 24 bmiss 7 burst bintval 100
>################
>
>To lessen my typing I have these entries in /etc/hosts:
>
>2001:4200:7000:15:202:6fff:fe22:9547    rtrg
>2001:4200:7000:15:202:6fff:fe41:1927    rtr2
>
>The machine I am working on is the first one, rtrg. If I don't do
>anything, I can ping6 rtr2, but I would like to add a route and still
>have it work. I have tried many things on rtrg but none seem to give
>me something that works. Some of the ones I have tried:
>
>route add -inet6 -host rtr2 -interface ath0
>route add -inet6 -host rtr2 -interface ath0 -cloning -nostatic --llinfo
>route add -inet6 -net rtr2 -prefixlen 128 -interface ath0 -cloning 
>-nostatic --llinfo
>route add -inet6 -host rtr2 fe80::202:6fff:fe22:9547%ath0 -ifp ath0
>route add -inet6 -host rtr2 -interface fe80::202:6fff:fe22:9547%ath0 -ifp ath0
>route add -inet6 -host rtr2 rtrg -cloning -nostatic
>
>Thanks.
>
>John
>--
>John Hay -- John.Hay@meraka.csir.co.za / jhay@FreeBSD.org
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