From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 02:24:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4904B1065696 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexanderchuranov@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAD08FC1F for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexanderchuranov@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so745240nfh.33 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:24:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=cVU8wvD+oZD+yDna7oMSZ6RsERVfzm7Rm8zCF1KCvk8=; b=KcUXGuhKfBx8rHrrl11BHHtSd91zKK/hJAsh0IfBHcyx4XdLwU++ZeZP5tJaPsbPKZ uIGhPrCE1nd6oEK9O7nwdhMoC+otQybzU5CWbFZyue8jaryYOwWuDyjTr2YUPXPfI/ak /C3NbJ0EHElBKtV41+I8TRsZN49tQpBbPE//w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=MjRGXqoOW0vnyxxuiTsGxi1j7jgP+auKM9S9rmO/yqomMzNIYG6sYmgeIrD1JrX6n7 QqxXOBUbDKIf9OlRionkHVXsvb3rz/jn8r4RA7yvsuKziroU2nLk22JqjzBGcvr86DLe gx5/nwBILKr7QhsseY4n6d2orDIr7bK3nuJ/I= Received: by 10.210.117.1 with SMTP id p1mr5869273ebc.53.1219631049543; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.130.15 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3cb459ed0808241924u20c64c1ayede0048795be726b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:24:09 +0400 From: "Alexander Churanov" To: "Ivan Voras" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3cb459ed0808230256g3f0f51epd9ab54047d3bd681@mail.gmail.com> <3395C244-A050-40D9-B857-588A58666DA2@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unicode-based FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:24:11 -0000 Ivan, 2008/8/24 Ivan Voras > AFAIK this is what Linux did and I think it's the Right Way To Do It > (based on seeing it work). Massaging UTF-8 into 8-bit text mode in > console could be nice but is of very limited usefulness today. > My vision is that syscons should be a failsafe alternative to X or ssh. Most boxes are either running X or managed via ssh and ssh client is running in graphical mode. My proposal is NOT about displaying all assigned unicode code points in character-mode. It's about switching the whole system to UTF-8 and making syscons working correctly in new curicumstances. It seems that other parts of FreeBSD are mostly ready. Read about my experience of using vipw with UTF-8. Alexander Churanov