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Date:      Thu, 17 Jan 2002 01:10:01 -0800 (PST)
From:      Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>
To:        freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: misc/33906: tic and friends as a port
Message-ID:  <200201170910.g0H9A1683853@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR misc/33906; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>
To: bug-followup@freebsd.org
Cc:  
Subject: Re: misc/33906: tic and friends as a port
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:05:39 +0200

 Useful feedback for the audit trail.
 
 Ciao,
 Sheldon.
 
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 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:53:48 -0800
 From: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
 To: Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>
 Cc: Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com>,
  	Jason Evans <jasone@canonware.com>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
 Subject: Re: termcap versus terminfo
 Message-ID: <3C46911C.9D267BE@mindspring.com>
 
 Sheldon Hearn wrote:
 > Could you gentlemen take a quick look at PR misc/33906 and confirm that
 > you agree with the approach proposed for handling the way we've hacked
 > up ncurses?
 
 THere is already a tput, tset, clear, and reset, so they
 are not a good ideac to install in /usr/local as a result of
 the prot, since they coulde conflict.
 
 The tic, toe, infocmp, captoinfo, and infotocap are OK, and
 should be part of the port.
 
 The share/terminfo should probably not be included at all.
 
 The reason the original ncurses is marked "FORBIDDEN" is
 the danger that it would displace the modified curses library
 in the hearts and minds of programs everywhere, and end up
 causing the use of terminfo.  THis argues against the terminfo
 database being sidtributes as part of the port in binary form,
 which is what the share/terminfo target does (though I would
 not object to the terminfo source file being distributed in
 uncompiled form, which is not addressed by the change to leave
 it out entirely...).
 
 So my suggestions:
 
 1)	remove the installation of tput, tset, clear, and reset
 
 2)	Install the /share/terminfo/terminfosrc (or whatever
 	it's called; I didn't bother to look).
 
 It's kind of ugly that tic will still create real terminfo
 files, and that it doesn't do the conversion only, by default,
 but since most access will be via the infotocap script, that
 is OK.
 
 As far as the "migrate to" argument is concerned, there's
 some merit to the idea of leaving out the "captoinfo" (as
 in, "I can convert that file to Word format for you, but
 I can't convert it back into Word Perfect format, thanks!").
 
 - -- Terry
 
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