From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Wed Dec 5 15:24:44 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8FF1317F79 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 15:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pfg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonic313-10.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic313-10.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.185.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5FB97887D for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 15:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pfg@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1544023483; bh=4Eu4MHwAILr1FlzH5rmEPVOaZx53iWPY/i2OhGmI9TI=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=PsMc31DDeCkJyj/SZxAfDgVh+VLLNWyIUu2mMJfS7nfFfRtRWQ7PvUYUr6SnCF6z3oU+XV4CsoSOH8DNI6pgaowFns42Bh1TcflUfUNqqt6rAuqBocH9E04kB/ovLKE7NByo9oY9AKiUmUran3R/jU4zjvSp8H/7zjk7dLNDWNZtCwiHj6E0lINcq8gsdleXiTa9iyZXne9KSgpqDRNcFvE9Hhx7IW2ui4JSSggCebdr/0fXs8+cWL3CIOw14uikYgjxIliWooIGd2GcLUzzIurYR7TUBATL6qcgM3Za8hY129a3TSsZEEew2wQCu7JIIyuDbWtcxlTX/ZXwMmapvA== X-YMail-OSG: v0QC9fIVM1n2ptGV_jKqSTGw1KjZ8CaoI0XkENXQptwI2NGN.6A2HuFx3xutlXZ Eq7iKmOBuuxn5wWrWEazCWJrw9rvECDj8z1QOzjhXDKICh0pAYIiPvxP6oXGDDnk0r0hQMHYpYHR J2UP4Gpbr1F93AlWQwoosDe8QfEajd2kIfMNMyeKayYa4QbKl_rvLx6sYWFl2Q3sp4LNUqIW932q Pl4DiNY2G7cL7FS50hK9US0oRoPrjxnnI60y00dYYOuDjynaLUrzTB2ZPwfcqNyPOaaZtapGXUfb Mg_jZziqSVd7qpYZPqBrAAwyBLhXsC.2yKfyL2Ue6wlTFC.xRyb8yVjmBo1OIPlVWfwqeSEjrvt1 XVaJedIHZ8dQGoq3byyjSgDrHFxi1xywOeDq6TSgX13qRhVTbawuUWJX98N_qz3QFQRa.AhifD8G tW7ulpd_SsBKdwURv_olGYML43f.SBylwGMN58YVGLzC9dQ23b_JTmWCp8ZZftUWtX6oAVSDAjZ7 wg80NhAGk3T6T3lB_1i9jvDSnuy3JRk9W4Fe7hqNOwchyLTWm923DbscQlSAn5srd5zKLIBfSTSc qs4KMwWTPIn7Xb7tS95jA1.AOXrvynOUzgaDkreYNQHS7Y_Fhqf1JLe6g4.aV.dAyoxs6quLPPG8 .hC4B94c4anC5EDDZn85YNbh3U7E663HD4vUIS_Qr7sqjLYbxtvfWRs6lmxvWTiMl_mccx6qCcjf gEAEPNO8yz4XVP8g1iIX4M.BozVwi8DaSXluOBWPKS2yh_aVCNnfK5FMewJnbZotST_EiVzs9hAb QENxqip4nam_leVzRdtnkazq6HT0ssinUakgWL0HZAkR0D_TxlnBOXlU_lttWpWpBInEWBdsATz0 ke6j27jR5STmfN.AvkIn0tP2..g5YB27646jxsX.XQBT0ZS3hN2RJmjsV4Bn4zuDJpFkmUoDtEH_ pg0vZROxBM62vXAyhn3KfnwIrTDHOnaMy6MPcsWMBesS_oEjZKgxEh5P094.e_WeOVM28ah.Lpi5 e_nJyfOTA3bsILwT_h7FKQFN1QA-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic313.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 15:24:43 +0000 Received: from 181.52.72.201 (EHLO [192.168.0.6]) ([181.52.72.201]) by smtp407.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID f39ff07b9b4b80f6bea9b7f27a89dfc7; Wed, 05 Dec 2018 15:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: svn commit: r341505 - head/share/man/man5 To: koobs@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org References: <201812042251.wB4MpE2m018782@repo.freebsd.org> <343a2f70-fb4c-bc5c-d32c-789e7797a628@FreeBSD.org> From: Pedro Giffuni Message-ID: <44199325-5b07-5195-1157-63c197eb5f07@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 10:24:40 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <343a2f70-fb4c-bc5c-d32c-789e7797a628@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A5FB97887D X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.24 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.17)[-0.166,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.11)[0.106,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.18)[-0.184,0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 15:24:44 -0000 On 12/5/18 12:06 AM, Kubilay Kocak wrote: > On 5/12/2018 9:51 am, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: >> Starting with FreeBSD 12 we fully support writing ext4 filesystems > > Can we remove '2' from the module/man/etc name if (since) it supports > multiple extXfs versions? Is there anything serious preventing it? > Bad idea: neither us or linux support the old extfs format. It is a common misconception that ext3 or ext4 are different filesystems: they are both extensions over the ext2 format and they were always intended to work like that. You can currently create plain ext2 filesystems on FreeBSD and add ext3/4 features on top and it will work just fine. The distinction on linux about ext2/3/4 is rather accidental: they didn't master Version Control in time to branch instead of forking the implementation a couple of times. It also seems like ext3 disappeared. > Seems minor but I think worth it for discovery/pola/obviousness, and a > good time (early in the 13.0 cycle). > > We get a lot of user questions about ext*fs support on FreeBSD and > pointing to an ext2fs man page also feels a bit weird. > This has to be "fixed" through documentation. I will admit that I haven't been working properly on the documentation, other than trying to remember some details in the Wiki page. > Happy to get/organise a !committer contributor to take care of this if > no-one wants to pick it up. > I will be glad to review/commit manpage changes that make things clearer. We should probably even try to document the format, as I recall we do for FAT somewhere(?). Pedro.