From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 5 00:04:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5589F106566B for ; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 00:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C77078FC12 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 00:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 60911 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Dec 2009 00:04:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1259971468; bh=ebVid4fyuPdFuenoK7911AP+rbgu04C694sKX1ulY5A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gf5w2ljQmd5SJPOCD0dhdbgNX45AvI5iaH/zbqcc2Ls8DqZVl1QZUD67ECvE+mnmG2+kY0DhFZpwncwBOA5qi1rDiub2D+x+LHo0NOzl6TfNVWdWb2PmDEuq6V306V8yg2lJG6sgB0dFz3InF5j5zVNRvp0nWNMso3IOQD+yK9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bFHxQxb/QvA2yRt+a7rPBoZpuai1CXRrsEqvUbFCEYZiN9Ud3vlFulsxd+5lXi+BhRjFwcAYvbeQIw6KGwcDRGhXKTorl6RBMPdhGk6+Bma+AFSNsA72JZEI8Xr7FbZhTEMp6r6WAap0EhpWI+Z/c6muXtL8Omx9sKAINQ1WBGY=; Message-ID: <152992.58749.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7vSh8iAVM1nM9EfiKgAi2GXBeyDLcXxp.9kWi.wGNtxTf7HKIUXkEYo2TpjdWUBP7fCxusoJOwkrW5RRje_YNJ1iIcK_0xz0N8M0EvBxkVbOBcJ86dn5qu6_O36Jm1u5.l0xIVhxy85PfoukZ8CTaOECP4P7xn_ppAojw.2Cw3wPCi3HhITMq76.4iBx5_3wjNiSpa0rCYhDoU1KHlO5vAnmifV..CjLFpw29lmbXrpL0AGGCc.oSEypBiIW914CTwi1GVbLooOol.DKkKNNZrIiM0eBKiuIsfLUvesQ5rNfO2hp3Ik1S5NLAQi.6UihoF_.AzQs_92IDElhPJfhaxoCZRpsNAukyQ07LUyy9M_gFOmLDFX1qkLEdM3_ucctUqfMvNNOcNakNlX4hji8LI8ENZyfcTwXkivzjA-- Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:04:28 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:04:28 -0800 (PST) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091204205425.5DB3F10656C6@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Is there the equivalent of a Windows "fast format" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:04:29 -0000 =0A=0A--- On Fri, 12/4/09, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote:=0A=0A> From: freebsd-questions-request= @freebsd.org =0A> Subject: freebsd-q= uestions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 12=0A> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A= > Received: Friday, December 4, 2009, 1:54 PM=0A> Send freebsd-questions ma= iling list=0A> submissions to=0A> =A0=A0=A0 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org= =0A> =0A> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit=0A> =A0= =A0=A0 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> or, = via email, send a message with subject or body 'help'=0A> to=0A> =A0=A0=A0 = freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org=0A> =0A> You can reach the person man= aging the list at=0A> =A0=A0=A0 freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org=0A> =0A= > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more=0A> specific= =0A> than "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest..."=0A> =0A> =0A> Today= 's Topics:=0A> =0A> =A0=A0=A01. Hardware migration and upgrade from=0A> 6.3= to 8.0 advice=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 (Achilleas Mantzios)=0A> =A0=A0=A02. Re: Har= dware migration and upgrade=0A> from 6.3 to 8.0 advice=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 (Fra= nk Wissmann)=0A> =A0=A0=A03. Re: Hardware migration and upgrade=0A> from 6.= 3 to 8.0 advice=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 (Adam Vande More)=0A> =A0=A0=A04. Re: Hardw= are migration and upgrade=0A> from 6.3 to 8.0 advice=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 (Rober= t Huff)=0A> =A0=A0=A05. Re: malformed man pages (Sagara=0A> Wijetunga)=0A> = =A0=A0=A06. recovering data from this disk (Tom=0A> Worster)=0A> =A0=A0=A07= . Re: Newbie questions (updating, ports,=0A> etc.) (Richard Mace)=0A> =A0= =A0=A08. FreeBSD 8.0 not detecting hot swap=0A> drive insertion (Rob)=0A> = =A0=A0=A09. Re: FreeBSD 8.0 not detecting hot swap=0A> drive insertion=0A> = =A0 =A0 =A0 (Steve Polyack)=0A> =A0 10. Re: FreeBSD 8.0 not detecting hot s= wap drive=0A> insertion (Rob)=0A> =A0 11. Re: malformed man pages (Boris Sa= morodov)=0A> =A0 12. GEOM: ad0s1: geometry does not match label=0A> (255h,6= 3s !=3D=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 16h,63s). (Alexandre L.)=0A> =A0 13. Wireless netwo= rk control (Sean Cavanaugh)=0A> =A0 14. Re: Hardware migration and upgrade = from 6.3 to=0A> 8.0 advice=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 (Achilleas Mantzios)=0A> =A0 15.= PF binat rule issue - feature or bug? (Greg=0A> Barniskis)=0A> =A0 16. Re:= Wireless network control (Ricardo Jesus)=0A> =A0 17. SMP and ALTQ_NOPCC (A= PseudoUtopia)=0A> =A0 18. Setting devfs rules inside jail (Jasvinder S.=0A>= Bahra)=0A> =A0 19. Re: Wireless network control (Roland Smith)=0A> =A0 20.= Re: "Last login" message (Michael Schaefer)=0A> =A0 21. 8.0 zfs install (W= illiam Taylor)=0A> =A0 22. Re: recovering data from this disk (Henrik=0A> H= udson)=0A> =A0 23. Re: 8.0 zfs install (Matthew Seaman)=0A> =A0 24. Re: 8.0= zfs install (pete wright)=0A> =A0 25. Re: recovering data from this disk (= Tom=0A> Worster)=0A> =A0 26. Is there the equivalent of a Windows "fast=0A>= format" for UFS?=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 (Peter Steele)=0A> =A0 27. Re: [Solved] H= aving problems burning a DVD (Al=0A> Plant)=0A> =A0 28. Re: malformed man p= ages (Dan Nelson)=0A> =A0 29. Xorg - no mouse and no keyboard (Paul Schmehl= )=0A> =A0 30. Re: recovering data from this disk (Modulok)=0A> =A0 31. Re: = Is there the equivalent of a Windows "fast=0A> format" for=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 = UFS? (Maxim Khitrov)=0A> =A0 32. FreeBSD 8 portinstall gnome2 failure (Roy= =0A> Stuivenberg)=0A> =0A> =0A> -------------------------------------------= ---------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 1=0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 0= 0:57:07 -0800 (PST)=0A> From: Achilleas Mantzios =0A> Subject: Hardware migration and upgrade from 6.3 to 8.0=0A> advice=0A= > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <791686.61294.qm@web113= 006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii=0A= > =0A> =0A> =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A> =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0=0A> Hello,=0A> =0A> i am facing this situation, where i need to upgrade= from my=0A> 6.3 i386=0A> system, used as my main workstation, to a new har= dware=0A> based on amd64=0A> (phenom II x4).=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> My current = system is alive since 2005, so is full of code,=0A> scripts,=0A> configurat= ions,look&feel,ssh keys etc.. that i would=0A> like to keep=0A> handy in my= new system.=0A> =0A> Also, currently i run gmirror, i am mentioning it, in= case=0A> it affects something.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Since 2005, dealing with= programming/support/etc.. i=0A> haven't done any=0A> upgrade task in FreeB= SD, so i dont feel that confident in=0A> this regard.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> I = could:=0A> =0A> a) install a brand new 8.0-RELEASE in the new hardware and= =0A> then=0A> =0A> a1) just mount the old disks to the new system or=0A> = =0A> a2) migrate /home user data directly to the new home dirs=0A> =0A> b)= migrate all current data to the new hardware,=0A> kernel/system=0A> includ= ed, and then try to upgrade to 8.0 (by sysinstall or=0A> makeworld/makekern= el)=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> So, its a trade-off between pain, correctness,=0A> e= ffectiveness, and ease of use.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> What would you guys recom= mend? Which way to go? Any other=0A> options?=0A> =0A=0A--- On Fri, 12/4/09= , freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote:=0A=0A> From: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org =0A> Subject: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287,= Issue 12=0A> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Received: Friday, Decem= ber 4, 2009, 1:54 PM=0A> Send freebsd-questions mailing list=0A> submission= s to=0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> =0A> To subscribe or unsubsc= ribe via the World Wide Web, visit=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman= /listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> or, via email, send a message with subject = or body 'help'=0A> to=0A> freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org=0A> =0A= > You can reach the person managing the list at=0A> freebsd-questions-o= wner@freebsd.org=0A> =0A> When replying, please edit your Subject line so i= t is more=0A> specific=0A> than "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest..= ."=0A> =0A> =0A> Today's Topics:=0A> =0A> 1. Hardware migration and upgr= ade from=0A> 6.3 to 8.0 advice=0A> (Achilleas Mantzios)=0A> 2. Re:= Hardware migration and upgrade=0A> from 6.3 to 8.0 advice=0A> (Frank= Wissmann)=0A> 3. Re: Hardware migration and upgrade=0A> from 6.3 to 8.0= advice=0A> (Adam Vande More)=0A> 4. Re: Hardware migration and up= grade=0A> from 6.3 to 8.0 advice=0A> (Robert Huff)=0A> 5. Re: malf= ormed man pages (Sagara=0A> Wijetunga)=0A> 6. recovering data from this = disk (Tom=0A> Worster)=0A> 7. Re: Newbie questions (updating, ports,=0A>= etc.) (Richard Mace)=0A> 8. FreeBSD 8.0 not detecting hot swap=0A> driv= e insertion (Rob)=0A> 9. Re: FreeBSD 8.0 not detecting hot swap=0A> driv= e insertion=0A> (Steve Polyack)=0A> 10. Re: FreeBSD 8.0 not detecti= ng hot swap drive=0A> insertion (Rob)=0A> 11. Re: malformed man pages (Bo= ris Samorodov)=0A> 12. GEOM: ad0s1: geometry does not match label=0A> (25= 5h,63s !=3D=0A> 16h,63s). (Alexandre L.)=0A> 13. Wireless network c= ontrol (Sean Cavanaugh)=0A> 14. Re: Hardware migration and upgrade from 6= .3 to=0A> 8.0 advice=0A> (Achilleas Mantzios)=0A> 15. PF binat rule= issue - feature or bug? (Greg=0A> Barniskis)=0A> 16. Re: Wireless networ= k control (Ricardo Jesus)=0A> 17. SMP and ALTQ_NOPCC (APseudoUtopia)=0A> = 18. Setting devfs rules inside jail (Jasvinder S.=0A> Bahra)=0A> 19. Re= : Wireless network control (Roland Smith)=0A> 20. Re: "Last login" messag= e (Michael Schaefer)=0A> 21. 8.0 zfs install (William Taylor)=0A> 22. R= e: recovering data from this disk (Henrik=0A> Hudson)=0A> 23. Re: 8.0 zfs= install (Matthew Seaman)=0A> 24. Re: 8.0 zfs install (pete wright)=0A> = 25. Re: recovering data from this disk (Tom=0A> Worster)=0A> 26. Is ther= e the equivalent of a Windows "fast=0A> format" for UFS?=0A> (Peter S= teele)=0A> 27. Re: [Solved] Having problems burning a DVD (Al=0A> Plant)= =0A> 28. Re: malformed man pages (Dan Nelson)=0A> 29. Xorg - no mouse a= nd no keyboard (Paul Schmehl)=0A> 30. Re: recovering data from this disk = (Modulok)=0A> 31. Re: Is there the equivalent of a Windows "fast=0A> form= at" for=0A> UFS? (Maxim Khitrov)=0A> 32. FreeBSD 8 portinstall gnom= e2 failure (Roy=0A> Stuivenberg)=0A> =0A> =0A> ----------------------------= ------------------------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 1=0A> Date: Fr= i, 4 Dec 2009 00:57:07 -0800 (PST)=0A> From: Achilleas Mantzios =0A> Subject: Hardware migration and upgrade from 6.3 to 8.= 0=0A> advice=0A> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <791686.= 61294.qm@web113006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charse= t=3Dus-ascii=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Hello,=0A> =0A>= i am facing this situation, where i need to upgrade from my=0A> 6.3 i386= =0A> system, used as my main workstation, to a new hardware=0A> based on am= d64=0A> (phenom II x4).=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> My current system is alive since= 2005, so is full of code,=0A> scripts,=0A> configurations,look&feel,ssh ke= ys etc.. that i would=0A> like to keep=0A> handy in my new system.=0A> =0A>= Also, currently i run gmirror, i am mentioning it, in case=0A> it affects = something.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Since 2005, dealing with programming/support/= etc.. i=0A> haven't done any=0A> upgrade task in FreeBSD, so i dont feel th= at confident in=0A> this regard.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> I could:=0A> =0A> a) in= stall a brand new 8.0-RELEASE in the new hardware and=0A> then=0A> =0A> a1= ) just mount the old disks to the new system or=0A> =0A> a2) migrate /home= user data directly to the new home dirs=0A> =0A> b) migrate all current da= ta to the new hardware,=0A> kernel/system=0A> included, and then try to upg= rade to 8.0 (by sysinstall or=0A> makeworld/makekernel)=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> = So, its a trade-off between pain, correctness,=0A> effectiveness, and ease = of use.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> What would you guys recommend? Which way to go? = Any other=0A> options?=0A> =0A> Thanx in advance!=0A> =0A> Please include m= e in your CC, as i am not subscribed to the=0A> list.=0A> =0A> Achilleas Ma= ntzios=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A= > =0A> Message: 2=0A> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:07:41 +0100=0A> From: Frank= Wissmann =0A> Subject: Re: Hardware migration and= upgrade from 6.3 to 8.0=0A> advice=0A> To: Achilleas Mantzios =0A> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <4B19= 099D.4050409@web.de>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1;=0A= > format=3Dflowed=0A> =0A> Achilleas Mantzios schrieb:=0A> =0A> Hi!=0A> > = =0A> =0A> > =0A> Hello,=0A> > =0A> > i am facing this = situation, where i need to upgrade=0A> from my 6.3 i386=0A> > system, used = as my main workstation, to a new hardware=0A> based on amd64=0A> > (phenom = II x4).=0A> =0A> Well, you know that i386 is Intel, do you? It might work= =0A> just moving the =0A> old kernel to a 64-bit system but I have no exper= ience with=0A> it.=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > My current system is alive si= nce 2005, so is full of=0A> code, scripts,=0A> > configurations,look&feel,s= sh keys etc.. that i=0A> would like to keep=0A> > handy in my new system.= =0A> > =0A> > Also, currently i run gmirror, i am mentioning it, in=0A> cas= e it affects something.=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > Since 2005, dealing with= programming/support/etc.. i=0A> haven't done any=0A> > upgrade task in Fre= eBSD, so i dont feel that confident=0A> in this regard.=0A> > =0A> > =0A> >= =0A> > I could:=0A> > =0A> > a) install a brand new 8.0-RELEASE in the new= hardware=0A> and then=0A> > =0A> > a1) just mount the old disks to the ne= w system=0A> or=0A> > =0A> > a2) migrate /home user data directly to the n= ew=0A> home dirs=0A> > =0A> > b) migrate all current data to the new hardwa= re,=0A> kernel/system=0A> > included, and then try to upgrade to 8.0 (by=0A= > sysinstall or=0A> > makeworld/makekernel)=0A> =0A> Item b) is not recomme= nded. There are so many changes AFAIK=0A> that it is =0A> no clear update. = You might do so but then you should update=0A> the =0A> following way from = 6.3 - 7.0 - 7.1 - 7.2 - 8.0 as was=0A> recommended on =0A> this list earlie= r (search the archives, please, for further=0A> details if =0A> you choose = this way).=0A> For me, a clean install of 8.0 and a move from the old data= =0A> to the fresh =0A> install is better. Use a2) !=0A> =0A> Greetings Fran= k=0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 3=0A> Date= : Fri, 4 Dec 2009 07:36:19 -0600=0A> From: Adam Vande More =0A> Subject: Re: Hardware migration and upgrade from 6.3 to 8.0=0A>= advice=0A> To: Achilleas Mantzios =0A> Cc: free= bsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID:=0A> <6201873e0912040536y69d27= 8c9o5bf63d17015894f9@mail.gmail.com>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset= =3DISO-8859-1=0A> =0A> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Achilleas Mantzios <= =0A> mantzios.achill@yahoo.com>=0A> wrote:=0A> =0A> >=0A> >=0A> > = =0A> Hello,=0A> >=0A> > i am facing this situation, where i ne= ed to upgrade=0A> from my 6.3 i386=0A> > system, used as my main workstatio= n, to a new hardware=0A> based on amd64=0A> > (phenom II x4).=0A> >=0A> >= =0A> >=0A> > My current system is alive since 2005, so is full of=0A> code,= scripts,=0A> > configurations,look&feel,ssh keys etc.. that i=0A> would li= ke to keep=0A> > handy in my new system.=0A> >=0A> > Also, currently i run = gmirror, i am mentioning it, in=0A> case it affects=0A> > something.=0A> >= =0A> >=0A> >=0A> > Since 2005, dealing with programming/support/etc.. i=0A>= haven't done any=0A> > upgrade task in FreeBSD, so i dont feel that confid= ent=0A> in this regard.=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > I could:=0A> >=0A> > a) ins= tall a brand new 8.0-RELEASE in the new hardware=0A> and then=0A> >=0A> > = a1) just mount the old disks to the new system=0A> or=0A> >=0A> > a2) migr= ate /home user data directly to the new=0A> home dirs=0A> >=0A> > b) migrat= e all current data to the new hardware,=0A> kernel/system=0A> > included, a= nd then try to upgrade to 8.0 (by=0A> sysinstall or=0A> > makeworld/makeker= nel)=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > So, its a trade-off between pain, correctness,= =0A> effectiveness, and ease of=0A> > use.=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > What wou= ld you guys recommend? Which way to go? Any=0A> other options?=0A> >=0A> > = Thanx in advance!=0A> >=0A> > Please include me in your CC, as i am not sub= scribed=0A> to the list.=0A> >=0A> > Achilleas Mantzios=0A> >=0A> >=0A> You= may want to consider installing from scratch and=0A> migrating over. This= =0A> would allow you setup zfs and make the move easier. =0A> Also may want= to=0A> explore run ahci(4) as that can seriously increase disk=0A> speed a= lthough I=0A> believe many more improvements live in STABLE, not=0A> RELEAS= E.=0A> =0A> -- =0A> Adam Vande More=0A> =0A> =0A> -------------------------= -----=0A> =0A> Message: 4=0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:35:58 -0500=0A> From= : Robert Huff =0A> Subject: Re: Hardware migration and = upgrade from 6.3 to 8.0=0A> advice=0A> To: Achilleas Mantzios ,=0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <1922= 5.4158.806906.190990@jerusalem.litteratus.org>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain= ; charset=3Dus-ascii=0A> =0A> =0A> Frank Wissmann writes:=0A> =0A> > > i a= m facing this situation, where i need to=0A> upgrade from my 6.3 i386=0A> >= > system, used as my main workstation, to a=0A> new hardware based on amd= 64=0A> > > (phenom II x4).=0A> >=0A> > > b) migrate all current data to t= he new=0A> hardware, kernel/system=0A> > > included, and then try to upgra= de to 8.0=0A> (by sysinstall or=0A> > > makeworld/makekernel)=0A> > =0A> = > Item b) is not recommended.=0A> =0A> Confirmed. _Highly_ not=0A> re= commended. .0 releases usually=0A> contain ABI/API changes (among other thi= ngs) and you don't=0A> want=0A> anything getting confused.=0A> =0A> > For = me, a clean install of 8.0 and a move from=0A> the old data to=0A> > the f= resh install is better.=0A> =0A> To the OP: the machine I'm typing on i= s=0A> also AMD Phenom II x4=0A> (940, if it matters) originally installed w= ith=0A> 8.0-RC3/amd64.=0A> Once I got past the "dangerously=0A> dedicat= ed disk" issue (and=0A> close relatives) everything went smoothly.=0A> = Of the choices presented, I recommend=0A> (a1) with the old disk=0A> set to= read-only in hardware. New disks are cheap,=0A> and this gives=0A> you a = perfect backup for as long as you want it. =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> = Robert Huff=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A> = =0A> Message: 5=0A> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:02:41 +0800=0A> From: Sagara = Wijetunga =0A> Subject: Re: malformed man pages=0A>= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Cc: Boris Samorodov =0A= > Message-ID: <4B191681.8050507@tomahawk.com.sg>=0A> Content-Type: text/pla= in; charset=3Dus-ascii; format=3Dflowed=0A> =0A> Boris Samorodov wrote:=0A>= > Hi,=0A> >=0A> > On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:50:31 +0800 Sagara Wijetunga=0A> = wrote:=0A> >=0A> > =0A> >> We have an issue on Tomahawk Desktop (an upcom= ing=0A> FreeBSD-based=0A> >> distro) that all man pages malformed.=0A> >> = =0A> >=0A> > What is the base FreeBSD version?=0A> >=0A> > =0A> FreeBS= D 7.2=0A> =0A> >> Eg. man tar shows as follows:=0A> >> 1mNAME0m=0A> >> = 1mtar 22m-- format of tape=0A> archive files=0A> >> =0A> >=0A> > =0A>= >> 1mDESCRIPTION0m=0A> >> The 1mtar 22marchive=0A> format collects any= number of files,=0A> >> directories, and=0A> >> =0A> >=0A> > What are = your terminal, locale, fonts?=0A> >=0A> > =0A> echo $TERM=0A> xterm-color= =0A> =0A> How do I know what locale and fonts are effective?=0A> =0A> Our "= default" in /etc/login.conf is same as FreeBSD's.=0A> >> What have we misse= d?=0A> >> =0A> >=0A> > Well, there were good old days ;-) when the gras= s was=0A> green=0A> > and manual pages were written in plain ASCII. Those= =0A> days=0A> > passed, welcome to the shiny future. Manual pages=0A> have= =0A> > colors, belts and whistles and can be viewed only at=0A> xterm=0A> >= and with some fonts.=0A> >=0A> > *sign* bsam, who used a copy-n-paste from= DISKLESS(8)=0A> and=0A> > lost nfs connectivity.=0A> >=0A> > =0A> =0A> R= egards=0A> Sagara=0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Mes= sage: 6=0A> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:12:37 -0500=0A> From: Tom Worster =0A> Subject: recovering data from this disk=0A> To: "freebsd-= questions@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A> Message-ID: = =0A> Content-Type: text/plain; =0A> charse= t=3D"US-ASCII"=0A> =0A> any suggestions how to recover data from either of = the=0A> mirrored disks that i=0A> can't get to boot? the situation is descr= ibed below.=0A> =0A> (i'm assuming, given the silence on this, that making = the=0A> system work after=0A> the freebsd-update is a lost cause.)=0A> =0A>= =0A> On 12/3/09 11:14 AM, "Tom Worster" =0A> wrote:=0A> = =0A> > after running freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade my=0A> system wo= n't boot. it=0A> > gets stuck on mountroot and i can't find the magic=0A> w= ord it wants.=0A> > =0A> > the system used to have two sata drives /dev/ad4= and=0A> ad6. they were=0A> > partitioned and sliced using the deafaults th= at=0A> sysinstall suggested.=0A> > =0A> > at the boot prompt, lsdev says:= =0A> > =0A> > disk devices=0A> > disk0: BIOS drive C:=0A> > disk0s1a:= FFS=0A> > disk0s1b: swap=0A> > disk0s1d: FFS=0A> > disk0s1e: F= FS=0A> > disk0s1f: FFS=0A> > disk1: BIOS drive D:=0A> > disk1s1a= : FFS=0A> > disk1s1b: swap=0A> > disk1s1d: FFS=0A> > disk1s1e: = FFS=0A> > disk1s1f: FFS=0A> > =0A> > which looks right, although i'm no= t familiar with the=0A> "disk" nomenclature.=0A> > =0A> > entering ? at mou= ntroot mentions ad4 and ad6.=0A> > =0A> > geom_mirror was being used.=0A> >= =0A> > i've tried saying "load geom_mirror" and/or=0A> "enable-module geom= _mirror" at the=0A> > boot prompt. neither made any difference.=0A> > =0A> = > nothing i've said to mountroot works:=0A> > =0A> > ufs:/dev/ad4s1a=0A> > = ufs:/dev/ad6s1a=0A> > ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a=0A> > ufs:/dev/disk0s1a=0A> > = ufs:/dev/disk1s1a=0A> > =0A> > does anyone know the magic word? i'd be very= =0A> grateful.=0A> > =0A> > tom=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> -------------------= -----------=0A> =0A> Message: 7=0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:15:33 +0200=0A= > From: Richard Mace =0A> Subject: Re: Newbie question= s (updating, ports, etc.)=0A> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message= -ID: <200912041615.33123.macerl@telkomsa.net>=0A> Content-Type: Text/Plain;= charset=3D"us-ascii"=0A> =0A> Thanks to all for your detailed and informa= tive replies to=0A> my questions. I =0A> have many new things to try out.= =0A> =0A> > I can't speak for anyone else, but long posts don't=0A> bother = me. I hope=0A> > > we've clarified things for you. Welcome to=0A> FreeBSD= !=0A> =0A> Thanks. Its good to be here!=0A> =0A> -Richard=0A> =0A> =0A> ---= ---------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 8=0A> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 = 08:37:06 -0600=0A> From: Rob =0A> Subject: FreeBS= D 8.0 not detecting hot swap drive=0A> insertion=0A> To: freebsd-questions@= freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <4B191E92.7010007@midsummerdream.org>=0A> Conte= nt-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1;=0A> format=3Dflowed=0A> =0A> I'm= running a 10 hot-swap SATA disk ZFS pool and recently=0A> upgraded from = =0A> 7.2 to 8. Since I upgraded, freebsd isn't spinning up=0A> or recogniz= ing a =0A> new drive that is inserted. In freebsd 7.[0,2], I=0A> could rem= ove a drive =0A> and insert a new one and freebsd would recognize it, spin= =0A> it up, and =0A> create the device nodes. None of that is happening in= =0A> 8.0, and the only =0A> way I've found to get it to recognize the disk = is to reboot=0A> the system.=0A> =0A> I tried using atacontrol to force fre= ebsd to reinit an ata=0A> channel, but =0A> that didn't have any effect. D= id something change in=0A> 8.0 that prevents =0A> this auto-detection? Is = there a way to re-enable it?=0A> =0A> Rob=0A> =0A> =0A> -------------------= -----------=0A> =0A> Message: 9=0A> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:49:50 -0500= =0A> From: Steve Polyack =0A> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.0 = not detecting hot swap drive=0A> insertion=0A> To: lists@midsummerdream.org= =0A> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <4B19218E.70909@comc= ast.net>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1;=0A> format=3Df= lowed=0A> =0A> Rob wrote:=0A> > I'm running a 10 hot-swap SATA disk ZFS poo= l and=0A> recently upgraded =0A> > from 7.2 to 8. Since I upgraded, freebs= d isn't=0A> spinning up or =0A> > recognizing a new drive that is inserted.= In=0A> freebsd 7.[0,2], I could =0A> > remove a drive and insert a new on= e and freebsd would=0A> recognize it, =0A> > spin it up, and create the dev= ice nodes. None of=0A> that is happening in =0A> > 8.0, and the only way I= 've found to get it to=0A> recognize the disk is to =0A> > reboot the syste= m.=0A> >=0A> > I tried using atacontrol to force freebsd to reinit an=0A> a= ta channel, =0A> > but that didn't have any effect. Did something=0A> chan= ge in 8.0 that =0A> > prevents this auto-detection? Is there a way to=0A> = re-enable it?=0A> >=0A> Are you using the original (7.x) ata(4) driver or t= he newer=0A> enhanced =0A> SATA drivers like ahci(4) or siis(4)? If you're= using=0A> the latter your =0A> devices will be labeled /dev/ada* instead o= f=0A> /dev/ad*. If you are =0A> indeed using the newer enhanced SATA drive= rs, you will need=0A> to use =0A> camcontrol to reset and rescan the associ= ated SATA=0A> channels.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------= =0A> =0A> Message: 10=0A> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:04:25 -0600=0A> From: R= ob =0A> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.0 not detecting ho= t swap drive=0A> insertion=0A> To: Steve Polyack =0A> C= c: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <4B1924F9.4060409@midsumme= rdream.org>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1;=0A> format= =3Dflowed=0A> =0A> I don't have any /dev/ada* devices, so I assume I'm usin= g=0A> the original =0A> ata driver. I haven't done any kernel customizatio= n,=0A> and am running the =0A> distribution's kernel (upgraded with the fre= ebsd-update=0A> tool). Does the =0A> older driver no longer detect drive i= nsertion?=0A> =0A> Rob=0A> =0A> Steve Polyack wrote:=0A> > Rob wrote:=0A> >= > I'm running a 10 hot-swap SATA disk ZFS pool and=0A> recently upgraded = =0A> >> from 7.2 to 8. Since I upgraded, freebsd=0A> isn't spinning up or = =0A> >> recognizing a new drive that is inserted. In=0A> freebsd 7.[0,2], = I could =0A> >> remove a drive and insert a new one and freebsd=0A> would r= ecognize it, =0A> >> spin it up, and create the device nodes. =0A> None of = that is happening in =0A> >> 8.0, and the only way I've found to get it to= =0A> recognize the disk is to =0A> >> reboot the system.=0A> >>=0A> >> I tr= ied using atacontrol to force freebsd to=0A> reinit an ata channel, =0A> >>= but that didn't have any effect. Did=0A> something change in 8.0 that =0A= > >> prevents this auto-detection? Is there a way=0A> to re-enable it?=0A>= >>=0A> > Are you using the original (7.x) ata(4) driver or the=0A> newer e= nhanced =0A> > SATA drivers like ahci(4) or siis(4)? If you're=0A> using t= he latter your =0A> > devices will be labeled /dev/ada* instead of=0A> /dev= /ad*. If you are =0A> > indeed using the newer enhanced SATA drivers, you = will=0A> need to use =0A> > camcontrol to reset and rescan the associated S= ATA=0A> channels.=0A> > =0A> > ____________________________________________= ___=0A> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> mailing list=0A> > http://lists= .freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> > To unsubscribe, send = any mail to =0A> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> > =0A> >= =0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 11=0A> Dat= e: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:53:18 +0300=0A> From: Boris Samorodov = =0A> Subject: Re: malformed man pages=0A> To: Sagara Wijetunga =0A> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <5414580= 9@bb.ipt.ru>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii=0A> =0A> On F= ri, 04 Dec 2009 22:02:41 +0800 Sagara Wijetunga wrote:=0A> > Boris Samorodo= v wrote:=0A> > > On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:50:31 +0800 Sagara=0A> Wijetunga wr= ote:=0A> > > =0A> > >> We have an issue on Tomahawk Desktop (an=0A> upcom= ing FreeBSD-based=0A> > >> distro) that all man pages malformed.=0A> > > Wh= at is the base FreeBSD version?=0A> > FreeBSD 7.2=0A> =0A> OK.=0A> =0A> > >= > Eg. man tar shows as follows: 1mNAME0m 1mtar=0A> 22m-- format of tape=0A>= > >> archive files=0A> > >> 1mDESCRIPTION0m The 1mtar 22marchive format=0A= > collects any number of=0A> > >> files, directories, and=0A> > >> =0A>= > > What are your terminal, locale, fonts?=0A> > > =0A> > echo $TERM xte= rm-color=0A> =0A> OK.=0A> =0A> > How do I know what locale and fonts are ef= fective?=0A> =0A> % locale=0A> =0A> I don't remember how to detect current = font, but I know how=0A> to=0A> set it up. ;-) I use x11-fonts/dejavu and s= et it at=0A> ~/XTerm:=0A> -----=0A> XTerm*faceName: DejaVu Sans Mono=0A> XT= erm*faceSize: 12=0A> -----=0A> =0A> -- =0A> WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam)=0A>= Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone &=0A> Internet SP=0A> FreeB= SD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To=0A> Serve=0A> =0A> =0A> -= -----------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 12=0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 200= 9 08:24:46 -0800 (PST)=0A> From: "Alexandre L." =0A> Sub= ject: GEOM: ad0s1: geometry does not match label=0A> (255h,63s !=3D=0A> = 16h,63s).=0A> To: FreeBSD Question =0A> Mes= sage-ID: <517367.85304.qm@web24810.mail.ird.yahoo.com>=0A> Content-Type: te= xt/plain; charset=3Dutf-8=0A> =0A> Hi,=0A> =0A> I have installed my laptop = with FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 first (now=0A> I'm on 8.0-Release-p1) and in dmesg I g= ot this error message=0A> : =0A> GEOM: ad0s1: geometry does not match label= (255h,63s !=3D=0A> 16h,63s).=0A> =0A> I have search on the Web about the m= ethod to resolv this,=0A> but I haven't found anything that helps me.=0A> = =0A> Here the result of #bsdlabel ad0s1=0A> # /dev/ad0s1:=0A> 8 partitions:= =0A> # =0A> size offset =0A> fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg]=0A> = a: 1048576 0 =0A> 4.2BSD 0 =0A> 0 0 =0A> b: 202= 8960 1048576 =0A> swap =0A> =0A> c: 117210177 = 0 =0A> unused 0 =0A> 0 #=0A> "raw" part, don't edit= =0A> d: 3110912 3077536 =0A> 4.2BSD 0 =0A> 0 0 =0A> e= : 1048576 6188448 =0A> 4.2BSD 0 =0A> 0 0 =0A> f: 109973= 153 7237024 4.2BSD =0A> 0 0 =0A> 0 =0A> =0A> And the resul= t of # gpart show=0A> =3D> 63 =0A> 117210177 ad0 MBR (56G)=0A> = 63 =0A> 117210177 1 freebsd [active] =0A> (56G)=0A> =0A> =3D> = 0 117210177 =0A> ad0s1 BSD (56G)=0A> 0 =0A> 1048576 = 1 freebsd-ufs =0A> (512M)=0A> 1048576 2028960 =0A> 2 freebsd= -swap (991M)=0A> 3077536 3110912 =0A> 4 freebsd-ufs (1.5G)=0A= > 6188448 1048576 =0A> 5 freebsd-ufs (512M)=0A> 7237024 1= 09973153 =0A> 6 freebsd-ufs (52G)=0A> =0A> Thanks for your help,=0A> = =0A> Alexandre L.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> ----------------------= --------=0A> =0A> Message: 13=0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:28:02 -0500=0A> = From: Sean Cavanaugh =0A> Subject: Wireless netwo= rk control=0A> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A> Message-ID: = =0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> I = am just trying to find out if theres an easier way to do=0A> this.=0A> =0A= > =0A> currently to get wireless to work on my system, i have to=0A> clone= the wireless interface to a wlan0 interface to=0A> actually do any real co= nnections. My home network uses WPA2=0A> encryption so i use the wpa-suppli= cant to set that up, but=0A> if i go out and about and hit free wifi spots,= I have to add=0A> the info for them into the wpa-supplicant.conf file to g= et=0A> it to access it.=0A> =0A> keep in mind that ideally I use the lates= t gnome as my=0A> desktop. is there an easier tool to do this all with? I= =0A> remember there was an issue with the gnome-network tool that=0A> it co= uld not actually make any changes in freebsd, but i=0A> cannot find if that= is still true or if it has been fixed.=0A> =0A> End goal, I am trying to = get this set up to be equally as=0A> idiot-proof as most linux distros in c= ase i have to hand=0A> this off to someone a bit less technically inclined.= =0A> =0A> =0A> sorry if this is a bit hard to read, i have ADHD so it=0A>= someti..OHLOOKASQUIRREL=0A> =0A> -Sean =0A> =0A> =0A= > =0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 14=0A> Date:= Fri, 4 Dec 2009 07:28:04 -0800 (PST)=0A> From: Achilleas Mantzios =0A> Subject: Re: Hardware migration and upgrade from 6.= 3 to 8.0=0A> advice=0A> To: Adam Vande More =0A> Cc:= freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <900056.39583.qm@web113013.m= ail.gq1.yahoo.com>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii=0A> =0A= > Thanx to all.=0A> I will keep the old machine for=0A> development/mainten= ance/support, while=0A> bulding/testing/migrating the newest versions of so= ftware=0A> in the new hardware.=0A> =0A> Up to now, i got the base system/k= ernel working ok on the=0A> new beast, and currently installing additional= =0A> distributions. All seem fine.=0A> =0A> Achilleas Mantzios=0A> =0A> ---= On Fri, 12/4/09, Adam Vande More =0A> wrote:=0A> = =0A> From: Adam Vande More =0A> Subject: Re: Hardwar= e migration and upgrade from 6.3 to 8.0=0A> advice=0A> To: "Achilleas Mantz= ios" =0A> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> = Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 1:36 PM=0A> =0A> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:5= 7 AM, Achilleas Mantzios =0A> wrote:=0A> =0A> = =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Hello,=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> i= am facing this situation, where i need to upgrade from my=0A> 6.3 i386=0A>= =0A> system, used as my main workstation, to a new hardware=0A> based on a= md64=0A> =0A> (phenom II x4).=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> My cur= rent system is alive since 2005, so is full of code,=0A> scripts,=0A> =0A> = configurations,look&feel,ssh keys etc.. that i would=0A> like to keep=0A> = =0A> handy in my new system.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Also, currently i run gmirr= or, i am mentioning it, in case=0A> it affects something.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A= > =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Since 2005, dealing with programming/support/etc.. i= =0A> haven't done any=0A> =0A> upgrade task in FreeBSD, so i dont feel that= confident in=0A> this regard.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> I cou= ld:=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> a) install a brand new 8.0-RELEASE in the new hardwa= re and=0A> then=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> a1) just mount the old disks to the new= system or=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> a2) migrate /home user data directly to the = new home dirs=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> b) migrate all current data to the new har= dware,=0A> kernel/system=0A> =0A> included, and then try to upgrade to 8.0 = (by sysinstall or=0A> =0A> makeworld/makekernel)=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> = =0A> =0A> =0A> So, its a trade-off between pain, correctness,=0A> effective= ness, and ease of use.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> What would yo= u guys recommend? Which way to go? Any other=0A> options?=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A= > Thanx in advance!=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Please include me in your CC, as i a= m not subscribed to the=0A> list.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Achilleas Mantzios=0A>= =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> You may want to consider installing from scratch and= =0A> migrating over. This would allow you setup zfs and=0A> make the move = easier. Also may want to explore run=0A> ahci(4) as that can seriously inc= rease disk speed although I=0A> believe many more improvements live in STAB= LE, not RELEASE.=0A> =0A> =0A> -- =0A> Adam Vande More=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> = =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: = 15=0A> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:41:20 -0600=0A> From: Greg Barniskis =0A> Subject: PF binat rule issue - feature or bug?=0A> = To: FreeBSD Questions =0A> Message-ID: <4B19= 3BB0.5000806@scls.lib.wi.us>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-88= 59-1;=0A> format=3Dflowed=0A> =0A> Using 7.2-RELEASE-p4 i386 with GENERIC k= ernel, I've found=0A> (the hard way) =0A> that if I have a pf.conf rule lik= e=0A> =0A> nat on $ext_if proto { tcp udp icmp } from $my_subnet \=0A> t= o any -> some.public.ip.num=0A> =0A> then pfctl will perform the expected e= xpansion of the=0A> listed protocols =0A> into three separate NAT rules.=0A= > =0A> However, if I have a rule like=0A> =0A> binat on $ext_if proto { tcp= udp icmp } from $server_dmz_ip=0A> \=0A> to any -> $server_public_ip=0A= > =0A> then I will /only/ get one NAT rule, for TCP.=0A> =0A> Then things l= ike NTP, DNS and ping will fail, but the=0A> filtering rules =0A> that perm= it such traffic will increment their byte, packet=0A> and state =0A> counte= rs like PF is working just fine (and I suppose in=0A> some sense that =0A> = the filtering part is). But only if I explicitly declare in=0A> pf.conf a = =0A> separate binat rule for each desired protocol, instead of=0A> listing = them, =0A> will things work as needed.=0A> =0A> Feature or bug? If the form= er, it is not well documented=0A> that I could =0A> see. I expected that a = list of protocols for a binat rule=0A> would just =0A> work, and pfctl cert= ainly didn't mark it as bad syntax. If=0A> a bug, is =0A> this a FreeBSD bu= g or OpenBSD?=0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Message= : 16=0A> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:05:47 +0000=0A> From: Ricardo Jesus =0A> Subject: Re: Wireless network control=0A> To:= Sean Cavanaugh =0A> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freeb= sd.org"=0A> =0A> Message-ID: <4B19416B.50900= 04@gmail.com>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1;=0A> forma= t=3Dflowed=0A> =0A> Sean Cavanaugh wrote:=0A> > =0A> > I am just trying to = find out if theres an easier way=0A> to do this.=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > curr= ently to get wireless to work on my system, i have=0A> to clone the wireles= s interface to a wlan0 interface to=0A> actually do any real connections. M= y home network uses WPA2=0A> encryption so i use the wpa-supplicant to set = that up, but=0A> if i go out and about and hit free wifi spots, I have to a= dd=0A> the info for them into the wpa-supplicant.conf file to get=0A> it to= access it.=0A> > =0A> > keep in mind that ideally I use the latest gnome = as my=0A> desktop. is there an easier tool to do this all with? I=0A> remem= ber there was an issue with the gnome-network tool that=0A> it could not ac= tually make any changes in freebsd, but i=0A> cannot find if that is still = true or if it has been fixed.=0A> > =0A> > End goal, I am trying to get th= is set up to be equally=0A> as idiot-proof as most linux distros in case i = have to hand=0A> this off to someone a bit less technically inclined.=0A> >= =0A> > =0A> > sorry if this is a bit hard to read, i have ADHD so it=0A>= someti..OHLOOKASQUIRREL=0A> > =0A> > -Sean =0A> =0A> = =0A> _______________________________________________=0A> > freebsd-quest= ions@freebsd.org=0A> mailing list=0A> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/li= stinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-qu= estions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> > =0A> There was a person asking for a= similar thing on this same=0A> list.=0A> =0A> I think the subject was some= thing like "ifconfig - GUI=0A> interface". Have =0A> a search on the list's= archive.=0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 17= =0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:12:41 -0500=0A> From: APseudoUtopia =0A> Subject: SMP and ALTQ_NOPCC=0A> To: FreeBSD Questions = =0A> Message-ID:=0A> <27ade5280912040912= i53f9871cj9502afc941073bef@mail.gmail.com>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; ch= arset=3DUTF-8=0A> =0A> Hello,=0A> =0A> With the improvements in SMP in Free= BSD 8.0, is the=0A> ALTQ_NOPCC option=0A> still required? In the handbook a= nd other older=0A> documentation, it says=0A> ALTQ_NOPCC is in fact require= d on SMP systems because the=0A> TSC is=0A> unstable. I was wondering if th= is is still the case after=0A> the=0A> improvements done with SMP.=0A> =0A>= Thanks.=0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 18= =0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 17:07:13 -0000=0A> From: "Jasvinder S. Bahra" =0A> Subject: Setting devfs rules inside jail=0A>= To: =0A> Message-ID:=0A> <6DBB67443EBF41B2A= 068C7CBD37621CB@atlantis>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; format=3Dflowed;=0A= > charset=3D"iso-8859-1";=0A> reply-type=3Doriginal=0A> =0A> Hi,=0A> = =0A> I'm trying to setup CUPS (in a jail) using an old parallel=0A> port pr= inter on =0A> my server machine.=0A> =0A> I used ezjail to create a jail an= d the installed CUPS=0A> within it. I've got =0A> everything up and runnin= g, but i've had to work around some=0A> issues.=0A> =0A> Initially, the CUP= S administration website didn't list the=0A> printer on the =0A> Add Printe= r screen. I discovered that this because=0A> the /dev/lpt0 and =0A> /dev/l= pt0.ctl devices weren't showing up in the jail.=0A> =0A> I therefore (on th= e host system), created a=0A> /etc/devfs.rules file...=0A> =0A> -----------= -------------------------------------------------=0A> [devfsrules_jail_pear= l=3D5]=0A> add include $devfsrules_hide_all=0A> add include $devfsrules_unh= ide_basic=0A> add include $devfsrules_unhide_login=0A> add path 'lpt*' unhi= de=0A> add path 'lpt*' mode 0660 group cups=0A> ---------------------------= ---------------------------------=0A> =0A> I updated the devfs ruleset entr= y in=0A> /usr/local/etc/ezjail/pearl_domain.tld, =0A> and rebooted.=0A> =0A= > This successfully made the /dev/lpt0 and /dev/lpt0.ctl=0A> devices visibl= e in =0A> the jail and assigned them the correct permissions.=0A> =0A> Unfo= rtunately, I was seeing an error message on-screen when=0A> the system was = =0A> booted (when the jails were being started)...=0A> =0A> ---------------= ---------------------------------------------=0A> devfs rule: error convert= ing to integer: cups=0A> --------------------------------------------------= ----------=0A> =0A> After a moment, I realised what had happened - I instal= led=0A> CUPS in a jail, =0A> not on the host system. Naturally the CUPS gr= oup does=0A> not exist on the host =0A> so when the system tried to transla= te the group name to a=0A> UID, it couldn't =0A> do so.=0A> =0A> I modified= the last line of the hosts /dev/devfs.rules line=0A> to as follows =0A> (b= asically removing the 'group cups')...=0A> =0A> ---------------------------= ---------------------------------=0A> add path 'lpt*' mode 0660=0A> -------= -----------------------------------------------------=0A> =0A> At this poin= t, I thought what I needed to do is setup a=0A> /etc/devfs.rules =0A> file = in the jail - setting the group ownership in the jail=0A> where the CUPS = =0A> group exists.=0A> =0A> I created a /etc/devfs.rules file *in* the jail= ...=0A> =0A> ------------------------------------------------------------= =0A> [localrules=3D5]=0A> add path 'lpt*' group cups=0A> ------------------= ------------------------------------------=0A> =0A> I also added the follow= ing entry in my jail's /etc/rc.conf=0A> file...=0A> =0A> ------------------= ------------------------------------------=0A> devfs_system_ruleset=3D"loca= lrules"=0A> ------------------------------------------------------------=0A= > =0A> Unfortunately, the group assignment statement never seems=0A> to get= executed.=0A> =0A> I've gotten around this by just creating a quick script= =0A> which explicitly =0A> sets the group ownership, and having the script = be executed=0A> on boot via =0A> /etc/crontab.=0A> =0A> I'm not understandi= ng why the devfs rules aren't being=0A> applied in the jail =0A> however. = Can anyone help?=0A> =0A> If its relevant, i'm using FreeBSD 7.2 (FreeBSD x= xx.xxx.xxx=0A> 7.2-RELEASE-p4 =0A> FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: Tue Dec 1 19= :05:36 GMT=0A> 2009 =0A> user@xxx.xxx.xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/xxx =0A> i38= 6).=0A> =0A> Regards,=0A> =0A> Jazz=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> ----------= --------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 19=0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 18:40:3= 5 +0100=0A> From: Roland Smith =0A> Subject: Re: Wireless= network control=0A> To: Sean Cavanaugh =0A> Cc: = freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <20091204174035.GA26429@slack= box.xs4all.nl>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"=0A> =0A> = On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 05:05:47PM +0000, Ricardo Jesus=0A> wrote:=0A> > Se= an Cavanaugh wrote:=0A> > > =0A> > > I am just trying to find out if theres= an easier=0A> way to do this.=0A> > > =0A> > > =0A> > > currently to get= wireless to work on my system, i=0A> have to clone the=0A> > > wireless in= terface to a wlan0 interface to=0A> actually do any real=0A> > > connection= s. My home network uses WPA2 encryption=0A> so i use the=0A> > > wpa-suppli= cant to set that up, but if i go out=0A> and about and hit free wifi=0A> > = > spots, I have to add the info for them into the=0A> wpa-supplicant.conf f= ile=0A> > > to get it to access it.=0A> > > =0A> > > keep in mind that ide= ally I use the latest gnome=0A> as my desktop. is there=0A> > > an easier t= ool to do this all with?=0A> =0A> Have a look at http://opal.com/freebsd/po= rts/net-mgmt/wifimgr=0A> It is in ports; see /usr/ports/net-mgmt/wifimgr=0A= > =0A> Roland=0A> -- =0A> R.F.Smith =0A> =0A> = http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/=0A> [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encry= pted/signed email=0A> much appreciated]=0A> pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 = B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321=0A> A725 (KeyID: C321A725)=0A> -------------- next part= --------------=0A> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...=0A> Name: not ava= ilable=0A> Type: application/pgp-signature=0A> Size: 196 bytes=0A> Desc: no= t available=0A> Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/= attachments/20091204/45addc9e/attachment-0001.pgp=0A> =0A> ----------------= --------------=0A> =0A> Message: 20=0A> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:43:41 +01= 00=0A> From: Michael Schaefer =0A> Subject: Re: "Las= t login" message=0A> To: Nerius Landys =0A> Cc: question= s@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <4B194A4D.20802@gmail.com>=0A> Content-Type: = text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0A> =0A> On 04.12.2009 00:16, Nerius Landy= s wrote:=0A> > I was wondering what controls this, meaning if I get=0A> an = IP or a=0A> > hostname, and why it's being truncated.=0A> =0A> don't know a= bout the truncating, but this behavior of=0A> displaying the=0A> last login= time and host is handled by pam_lastlog(8).=0A> =0A> i guess the FQHN is j= ust displayed if a reverse dns entry=0A> exists for the=0A> corresponding i= p.=0A> =0A> regards - michael=0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------= =0A> =0A> Message: 21=0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 10:28:39 -0800=0A> From: Wi= lliam Taylor =0A> Subject: 8.0 zfs install=0A> To:= questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <25CC9A9B-DCB3-48BB-BD0A-238957A487F= A@corp.sonic.net>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii=0A> =0A>= Does the installer in 8.0 support zfs?=0A> =0A> If not whats the easiest w= ay to get a full zfs install=0A> done?=0A> =0A> =0A> ----------------------= --------=0A> =0A> Message: 22=0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:51:57 -0900=0A> = From: Henrik Hudson =0A> Subject: Re: recovering data fr= om this disk=0A> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <2009120= 4185157.GA4904@alucard.int.rhavenn.net>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; chars= et=3Dus-ascii=0A> =0A> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009, Tom Worster wrote:=0A> =0A> > a= ny suggestions how to recover data from either of the=0A> mirrored disks th= at i=0A> > can't get to boot? the situation is described below.=0A> =0A> If= they were indeed mirrored then try a FreeBSD live distro=0A> boot CD=0A> a= nd boot into that then just mount one of the disk=0A> partitions that=0A> y= ou need.=0A> =0A> Henrik=0A> =0A> =0A> > =0A> > (i'm assuming, given the si= lence on this, that making=0A> the system work after=0A> > the freebsd-upda= te is a lost cause.)=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > On 12/3/09 11:14 AM, "Tom Worster"= =0A> wrote:=0A> > =0A> > > after running freebsd-update -r= 8.0-RELEASE=0A> upgrade my system won't boot. it=0A> > > gets stuck on mou= ntroot and i can't find the=0A> magic word it wants.=0A> > > =0A> > > the s= ystem used to have two sata drives /dev/ad4=0A> and ad6. they were=0A> > > = partitioned and sliced using the deafaults that=0A> sysinstall suggested.= =0A> > > =0A> > > at the boot prompt, lsdev says:=0A> > > =0A> > > disk dev= ices=0A> > > disk0: BIOS drive C:=0A> > > disk0s1a: FFS=0A> > > d= isk0s1b: swap=0A> > > disk0s1d: FFS=0A> > > disk0s1e: FFS=0A> > > = disk0s1f: FFS=0A> > > disk1: BIOS drive D:=0A> > > disk1s1a: FFS= =0A> > > disk1s1b: swap=0A> > > disk1s1d: FFS=0A> > > disk1s1e:= FFS=0A> > > disk1s1f: FFS=0A> > > =0A> > > which looks right, although= i'm not familiar with=0A> the "disk" nomenclature.=0A> > > =0A> > > enteri= ng ? at mountroot mentions ad4 and ad6.=0A> > > =0A> > > geom_mirror was be= ing used.=0A> > > =0A> > > i've tried saying "load geom_mirror" and/or=0A> = "enable-module geom_mirror" at the=0A> > > boot prompt. neither made any di= fference.=0A> > > =0A> > > nothing i've said to mountroot works:=0A> > > = =0A> > > ufs:/dev/ad4s1a=0A> > > ufs:/dev/ad6s1a=0A> > > ufs:/dev/mirror/gm= 0s1a=0A> > > ufs:/dev/disk0s1a=0A> > > ufs:/dev/disk1s1a=0A> > > =0A> > > d= oes anyone know the magic word? i'd be very=0A> grateful.=0A> > > =0A> > > = tom=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > _______________________________________________=0A>= > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> mailing list=0A> > http://lists.freebs= d.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> > To unsubscribe, send any mai= l to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A> -- =0A> Henrik Hu= dson=0A> lists@rhavenn.net=0A> -----------------------------------------=0A= > "God, root, what is difference?" Pitr; UF =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> -----------= -------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 23=0A> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:17:1= 2 +0000=0A> From: Matthew Seaman =0A> Subj= ect: Re: 8.0 zfs install=0A> To: William Taylor = =0A> Cc: questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <4B196038.6000902@infracanin= ophile.co.uk>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"=0A> =0A>= William Taylor wrote:=0A> > Does the installer in 8.0 support zfs?=0A> =0A= > No.=0A> =0A> > If not whats the easiest way to get a full zfs install=0A>= done?=0A> =0A> http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS and links referenced=0A> = from that page.=0A> =0A> Cheers,=0A> =0A> Matthew=0A> =0A> -- =0A> = Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. =0A> 7 Priory=0A> Courtyar= d=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Flat 3= =0A> PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey =0A> Ramsgate=0A> = =0A> =0A> =0A> Kent, CT11 9PW= =0A> =0A> -------------- next part --------------=0A> A non-text attachment= was scrubbed...=0A> Name: signature.asc=0A> Type: application/pgp-signatur= e=0A> Size: 259 bytes=0A> Desc: OpenPGP digital signature=0A> Url : http://= lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20091204/599ce866= /signature-0001.pgp=0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Messag= e: 24=0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:19:20 -0800=0A> From: pete wright =0A> Subject: Re: 8.0 zfs install=0A> To: William Taylor =0A> Cc: questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID:=0A> = <57d710000912041119o43aca29dk6575b241c474ca1d@mail.gmail.com>=0A> Conten= t-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0A> =0A> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10= :28 AM, William Taylor =0A> wrote:=0A> > Does the = installer in 8.0 support zfs?=0A> >=0A> > If not whats the easiest way to g= et a full zfs install=0A> done?=0A> =0A> =0A> This is probably the best pla= ce to start, in general the=0A> FreeBSD=0A> handbook is the best place to s= tart looking for any=0A> information you=0A> may have regarding the OS:=0A>= =0A> =0A> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/filesy= stems-zfs.html=0A> =0A> You can also get more information via the FreeBSD w= iki=0A> here:=0A> http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS=0A> =0A> =0A> -- =0A> pete wr= ight=0A> www.nycbug.org=0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A> = =0A> Message: 25=0A> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:22:27 -0500=0A> From: Tom Wo= rster =0A> Subject: Re: recovering data from this disk=0A> = To: Henrik Hudson , =0A> =0A> Message-ID: =0A> Content-Type: text/p= lain; =0A> charset=3D"US-ASCII"=0A> =0A> On 12/4/09 1:51 PM, "Henrik Huds= on" =0A> wrote:=0A> =0A> > On Fri, 04 Dec 2009, Tom Wors= ter wrote:=0A> > =0A> >> any suggestions how to recover data from either of= =0A> the mirrored disks that i=0A> >> can't get to boot? the situation is d= escribed=0A> below.=0A> > =0A> > If they were indeed mirrored then try a Fr= eeBSD live=0A> distro boot CD=0A> > and boot into that then just mount one = of the disk=0A> partitions that=0A> > you need.=0A> =0A> thanks, henrik,=0A= > =0A> but i wasn't able to make the live fs fixit shell work. i=0A> get an= error=0A> message when i try to start the live fs shell: "ldconfig=0A> cou= ld not create=0A> the ld.so hints file" and all commands fail to work.=0A> = =0A> tom=0A> =0A> =0A> >> =0A> >> (i'm assuming, given the silence on this,= that=0A> making the system work after=0A> >> the freebsd-update is a lost = cause.)=0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> On 12/3/09 11:14 AM, "Tom Worster" =0A> wrote:=0A> >> =0A> >>> after running freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELE= ASE=0A> upgrade my system won't boot. it=0A> >>> gets stuck on mountroot an= d i can't find the=0A> magic word it wants.=0A> >>> =0A> >>> the system use= d to have two sata drives=0A> /dev/ad4 and ad6. they were=0A> >>> partition= ed and sliced using the deafaults=0A> that sysinstall suggested.=0A> >>> = =0A> >>> at the boot prompt, lsdev says:=0A> >>> =0A> >>> disk devices=0A> = >>> disk0: BIOS drive C:=0A> >>> disk0s1a: FFS=0A> >>> disk0s1b: = swap=0A> >>> disk0s1d: FFS=0A> >>> disk0s1e: FFS=0A> >>> disk0s= 1f: FFS=0A> >>> disk1: BIOS drive D:=0A> >>> disk1s1a: FFS=0A> >>> = disk1s1b: swap=0A> >>> disk1s1d: FFS=0A> >>> disk1s1e: FFS=0A> >= >> disk1s1f: FFS=0A> >>> =0A> >>> which looks right, although i'm not f= amiliar=0A> with the "disk" nomenclature.=0A> >>> =0A> >>> entering ? at mo= untroot mentions ad4 and ad6.=0A> >>> =0A> >>> geom_mirror was being used.= =0A> >>> =0A> >>> i've tried saying "load geom_mirror" and/or=0A> "enable-m= odule geom_mirror" at=0A> >>> the=0A> >>> boot prompt. neither made any dif= ference.=0A> >>> =0A> >>> nothing i've said to mountroot works:=0A> >>> =0A= > >>> ufs:/dev/ad4s1a=0A> >>> ufs:/dev/ad6s1a=0A> >>> ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1= a=0A> >>> ufs:/dev/disk0s1a=0A> >>> ufs:/dev/disk1s1a=0A> >>> =0A> >>> does= anyone know the magic word? i'd be very=0A> grateful.=0A> >>> =0A> >>> tom= =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> _______________________________________________=0A>= >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> mailing list=0A> >> http://lists.free= bsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> >> To unsubscribe, send any = mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A>= ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 26=0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2= 009 13:23:35 -0600=0A> From: Peter Steele =0A> Subje= ct: Is there the equivalent of a Windows "fast format"=0A> for UFS?=0A> To:= "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A> Me= ssage-ID:=0A> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33C6C072@MBX03.exg5.exgh= ost.com>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"=0A> =0A> I susp= ect I know the answer to this question but I'll ask=0A> it anyway. We're de= aling with some very large disks (11TB=0A> raid array) and a newfs operatio= n takes a significant time.=0A> Is there any way to get a volume formatted = faster than the=0A> typical newfs does?=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> ----------------= --------------=0A> =0A> Message: 27=0A> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:26:55 -10= 00=0A> From: Al Plant =0A> Subject: Re: [Solved] Having probl= ems burning a DVD=0A> To: James Phillips =0A> Cc: fr= eebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <4B19627F.7020908@hdk5.net>=0A>= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1;=0A> format=3Dflowed=0A> = =0A> James Phillips wrote:=0A> > Hello,=0A> > =0A> > After making two coast= ers with a graphical CD burning=0A> program using Ubuntu, I decided to try = using FreeBSD: I want=0A> to start backing up to DVD anyway.=0A> > =0A> > A= fter some searching I learned I missed some details=0A> in the handbook on = the first and second reads such as:=0A> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.= ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html=0A> > "The program growisofs(1)= will be used to perform DVD=0A> recording. This command is part of the dvd= +rw-tools=0A> utilities (sysutils/dvd+rw-tools). The dvd+rw-tools support= =0A> all DVD media types."=0A> > =0A> > I had hard time finding the non-exi= stent growisofs=0A> package!=0A> > =0A> > "These tools use the SCSI subsyst= em to access to the=0A> devices, therefore the ATAPI/CAM support must be ad= ded to=0A> your kernel. If your burner uses the USB interface this=0A> addi= tion is useless, and you should read the Section 18.5=0A> for more details = on USB devices configuration."=0A> > =0A> > Using the atapicd driver genera= ted the following error=0A> message:=0A> > :-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU fo= r /dev/acd0:=0A> Inappropriate ioctl for device=0A> > =0A> > After the comm= and:=0A> > $ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z=0A> /dev/acd0=3D8.0-RELEASE-i386-dvd1= .iso=0A> > before you ask:=0A> > MD5 (8.0-RELEASE-i386-dvd1.iso) =3D=0A> 53= 36cd827991e4d4cff6d73c4a5ca105=0A> > Release announcement:=0A> 5336cd827991= e4d4cff6d73c4a5ca105=0A> > =0A> > I tried playing with /etc/devfs.conf as s= uggested by=0A> Predrag Punosevac=0A> > $ id=0A> > uid=3D1002(backup) gid= =3D1002(backup)=0A> groups=3D1002(backup),5(operator),1003(Share)=0A> > $ c= at /etc/devfs.conf |sed 's/#.*//g'=0A> > link cd0 cdrom=0A> > link = cd0 dvd=0A> > link cd0 rdvd=0A> > own cdrom =0A> root:opera= tor=0A> > own dvd =0A> root:operator=0A> > own rdvd =0A> root:ope= rator=0A> > perm cd0 0660=0A> > perm cdrom 0660=0A> > perm d= vd 0660=0A> > perm rdvd 0660=0A> > perm xpt0 0660=0A> > perm= pass0 0660=0A> > -> that sed command was stolen from a script=0A> ex= pecting =0A> > ->originally used device acd0 (until enabling=0A> at= apicam)=0A> > $ cat /boot/loader.conf=0A> > acpi_load=3D"no"=0A> > apm_load= =3D"yes"=0A> > atapicam_load=3D"yes"=0A> > #ata_load=3D"yes" # enabled b= y default=0A> > scbus_load=3D"yes"=0A> > cd_load=3D"yes"=0A> > pass_load=3D= "yes"=0A> > atapicd_load=3D"no"=0A> > #hw.ata.atapi_dma=3D"1" # enabled by= default=0A> > =0A> > With the atapicam driver I was able to somehow get=0A= > growisofs to go through the motions of burning the DVD, even=0A> have a k= ernel message from GEOM reading the BSD label:=0A> > $ tail /var/log/messag= es=0A> > Dec 3 20:00:00 dusty newsyslog[833]: logfile=0A> turned over due = to size>100K=0A> > Dec 3 20:00:28 dusty kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label=0A> for = provider acd0t01 is iso9660/FreeBSD_Install.=0A> > =0A> > but can't read th= e disk to verify it:=0A> > $ dd if=3D/dev/cd0 bs=3D2048 | md5=0A> > 996592+= 0 records in=0A> > 996592+0 records out=0A> > 2041020416 bytes transferred = in 1292.388284 secs=0A> (1579263 bytes/sec)=0A> > 19b087536234b316b64232ba6= b1c1799=0A> > =0A> > Umm. Nevermind. I added the block size so nobody would= =0A> try suggesting it has an effect :P previous error:=0A> > $ dd if=3D/d= ev/cd0 | md5=0A> > dd: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument=0A> > 0+0 records in=0A> = > 0+0 records out=0A> > 0 bytes transferred in 0.000721 secs (0 bytes/sec)= =0A> > d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > I noticed that = the hash does not match the ISO file.=0A> Is that normal for DVDs? For CD i= mages I often get the md5=0A> hash to match.=0A> > =0A> > The man page for = atapicam(4) warns:=0A> > "atapicam and ATAPI-specific target drivers (acd(4= ),=0A> ast(4), and afd(4))=0A> > can be configured in the same kernel. =0A= > Simultaneous access to the same=0A> > device through the SCSI generic dr= ivers and the=0A> ATAPI-specific drivers=0A> > may cause problems and is s= trongly=0A> discouraged."=0A> > =0A> > Is there anything special I should d= o to try to=0A> disable the atapicd driver? I don't think my=0A> 'atapicd_l= oad=3D"no"' line in /boot/loader.conf has much of an=0A> effect.=0A> > =0A>= > Regards,=0A> > =0A> > James Phillips=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> = __________________________________________________________________=0A> > = Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!=0A> =0A> > =0A> > ht= tp://www.flickr.com/gift/=0A> > ___________________________________________= ____=0A> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> mailing list=0A> > http://list= s.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> > To unsubscribe, send= any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A> Aloha JP,= =0A> =0A> This is what I use on FreeBSD from the command line to burn=0A> D= VD's.=0A> I have used it on FreeBSD 8* for a while. (Simple and it=0A> work= s.)-=0A> =0A> =0A> ##########=0A> =0A> dvdburner.doc=0A> DVD+R burner Setup= and operation=0A> =0A> =0A> From sysutils/dvd+rw-tools=0A> Intall the DVD= port=0A> =0A> # growisofs=0A> =0A> ( used the following from all the sugge= stions and it worked=0A> with Manolis =0A> DVD p1 7.2)=0A> =0A> 1st> Put= hw.ata.atapi_dma=3D"1" in the=0A> /boot/loader.conf=0A> 2nd> Put apticam_l= oad=3D"YES" in the /boot/loader.conf=0A> =0A> (That 2nd 18.7.2 instruction = is not clear in the Handbook=0A> section and =0A> should be added.)=0A> =0A= > =0A> Then> Run # growisofs -dvd-compat -Z =0A> dev/cd0=3D/usr/home/alp/Fr= eeBSD_7/7.2-RELEASE-p1-i386-disc1.iso=0A> (all on one line)=0A> =0A> Then> = Use cd0 as a DVD burner and make the DVD-R=0A> =0A> I tested the DVD on a = spare box and it installed just=0A> fine.=0A> =0A> ##############=0A> =0A> = =0A> ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: =0A> 808-284-2740=0A> + http= ://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +=0A> + http://aloha50.net = -=0A> Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* +=0A> < email: noc@hdk5.net= >=0A> "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."-=0A> Lewis= Carrol=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Message:= 28=0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:32:19 -0600=0A> From: Dan Nelson =0A> Subject: Re: malformed man pages=0A> To: Sagara Wijetu= nga =0A> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Mess= age-ID: <20091204193219.GA84026@dan.emsphone.com>=0A> Content-Type: text/pl= ain; charset=3Dus-ascii=0A> =0A> In the last episode (Dec 04), Sagara Wijet= unga said:=0A> > Hi FreeBSD community=0A> > =0A> > We have an issue on Toma= hawk Desktop (an upcoming=0A> FreeBSD-based distro)=0A> > that all man page= s malformed.=0A> > =0A> > Eg. man tar shows as follows:=0A> > 1mNAME0m=0A> = > 1mtar 22m-- format of tape archive=0A> files=0A> > =0A> > 1mDESCRIPT= ION0m=0A> > The 1mtar 22marchive format=0A> collects any number of fil= es, =0A> > directories, and=0A> =0A> That looks sort of like malformed ANSI= escape codes (bold=0A> would be "ESC [ 1=0A> m", but the man utilities sho= uldn't be generating=0A> those. If you run "man 5=0A> tar | hd | head", wh= at do you get? I get this:=0A> =0A> 00000000 54 41 52 28 35 29 09 09 09 = 20 20 46 72=0A> 65 65 42 |TAR(5)... FreeB|=0A> 00000010 53 44 20 46 69 6= c 65 20 46 6f 72 6d 61=0A> 74 73 20 |SD File Formats |=0A> 00000020 4d 6= 1 6e 75 61 6c 09 09 09 54 41 52 28=0A> 35 29 0a |Manual...TAR(5).|=0A> 00= 000030 0a 4e 08 4e 41 08 41 4d 08 4d 45 08 45=0A> 0a 20 20 |.N.NA.AM.ME.= E. |=0A> 00000040 20 20 20 74 08 74 61 08 61 72 08 72 20=0A> 2d 2d 20 |= t.ta.ar.r -- |=0A> 00000050 66 6f 72 6d 61 74 20 6f 66 20 74 61 70=0A>= 65 20 61 |format of tape a|=0A> 00000060 72 63 68 69 76 65 20 66 69 6c = 65 73 0a=0A> 0a 44 08 |rchive files..D.|=0A> 00000070 44 45 08 45 53 08 5= 3 43 08 43 52 08 52=0A> 49 08 49 |DE.ES.SC.CR.RI.I|=0A> 00000080 50 08 5= 0 54 08 54 49 08 49 4f 08 4f 4e=0A> 08 4e 0a |P.PT.TI.IO.ON.N.|=0A> 00000= 090 20 20 20 20 20 54 68 65 20 74 08 74 61=0A> 08 61 72 | The t.ta.a= r|=0A> =0A> The doubled letters are handled by /usr/bin/less and=0A> conver= ted to bold=0A> before displaying. If you get the same hd output as I=0A> = have above, then we=0A> know that the manpage is fine, and your problem is = in=0A> /usr/bin/less or your=0A> terminal type is incorrect. If you see AN= SI escape=0A> codes in the hd output,=0A> then we know the problem is with = the manpage tools.=0A> =0A> -- =0A> Dan Nelson=0A> dnelson@allantgr= oup.com=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:23:35 -0600=0A> From: = Peter Steele =0A> Subject: Is there the equivalent o= f a Windows "fast format"=0A> for UFS?=0A> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.o= rg"=0A> =0A> Message-ID:=0A> =A0=A0=A0 <7B93= 97B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33C6C072@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com>=0A> Content-Ty= pe: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"=0A> =0A> I suspect I know the answer t= o this question but I'll ask=0A> it anyway. We're dealing with some very la= rge disks (11TB=0A> raid array) and a newfs operation takes a significant t= ime.=0A> Is there any way to get a volume formatted faster than the=0A> typ= ical newfs does?=0A> =0A=0AI'm no expert, but I think doing a newfs without= zeroing the drive (array) first IS the equivalent of the Windows "Fast For= mat."=0A=0AAccording to the manpage, increasing the fragment size should re= duce the number of inodes written. Do you have (or expect) 11TB of small fi= les? =0A=0ARegards,=0A=0AJames Phillips=0A=0A=0A=0A __________________= ________________________________________________=0ALooking for the perfect = gift? Give the gift of Flickr! =0A=0Ahttp://www.flickr.com/gift/