From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Nov 17 22:25:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D77AA31D92 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan_partelly@rdsor.ro) Received: from mail.rdsor.ro (mail.rdsor.ro [193.231.238.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84401FF9; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan_partelly@rdsor.ro) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [79.119.24.18]) by mail.rdsor.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE2B1F844; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 00:25:33 +0200 (EET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) Subject: Re: libXO-ification - Why - and is it a symptom of deeper issues? From: Dan Partelly In-Reply-To: <29711.1447778554@chaos> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 00:25:32 +0200 Cc: Julian Elischer , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <61FE0B8E-37C3-4654-90BC-7A4F2EB3FFDB@rdsor.ro> References: <0650CA79-5711-44BF-AC3F-0C5C5B6E5BD9@rdsor.ro> <564AED8B.4080809@freebsd.org> <29711.1447778554@chaos> To: "Simon J. Gerraty" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:25:36 -0000 It=E2=80=99s not about the fronted. That would have to be replaced most = likely=20 The most useful part IMO is the permission engine itself, and maybe some=20= other parts too but without insight into implementation I am not able to=20= judge that. =20 You could IPC key value-data into the security engine describing = arbitrary commands, , have the request validated, user right checked, then passed to a = command execution=20 system (and I use the command term very loosely, I do not refers to a utility) =20 > On 17 Nov 2015, at 18:42, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: >=20 > Dan Partelly wrote: >> Juniper can further help FreeBSD by donating the code of their >> system management daemon and their fine granularity permissions >=20 > At the cost of i18n etc? > The Junos UI is totally data driven, syntax is verified term by term > (since depending on your permissions some terms simply do not exist = for > you). Such a model cannot be successfully translated to other > languages where the order of verbs and nouns differ for example. >=20 > Everything I've read on the topic suggests that messages must be > translated on at least phrase if not sentence granularity for = reasonable > results, and that just doesn't fit our UI. > Thus enhancement requests for i18n are politely rejected. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"