From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 05:09:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC7E1065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D92C8FC15 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so710309fxm.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:09:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qxsQh9yFRFigvxy0DP0W3MuYmPsLR57VWWZ4bM0Mk9U=; b=KJ5rq/fWxQm0mGBWDLcaD6Y6HEdk7t9MdhxXJMT6riv8BBDxP2g3tkmUHuVTbxWuq5 fLTgVlKpigQkINRn9l4Hkuco05dnp7AC+AY7+qsQn+4U2/PEMmuCExfbN4iQbcqOAjP0 KjBwjeOVvpYPT4MsOs4xU7W8ovwLWY29+TjDw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=rEGx51WK5UD1HIHafXtiZLHJUdC2OgdJZS0TBECbbmFqU2Ny8iqbCZQtVgABHNP4X8 XXRR9ReXF3qdTEThx7PDppqDw22tiikcAsNydtOadsoHpVbGGzj/JHyDiJO31oF3BPY1 UdaZ9n6t8Phnz6X94hOuV3nmk48aVFnudshGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.40.1 with SMTP id s1mr395699muj.4.1280466567689; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.231.17 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:09:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C509728.2040008@telenix.org> References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> <4C509728.2040008@telenix.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:09:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Chuck Robey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Dale Scott , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:09:30 -0000 On 7/28/10, Chuck Robey wrote: > Dale Scott wrote: >> Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the Beastie-influenced >> official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, Wendy andHotStuff. >> However, I also accept there are individuals who understand these symbols >> differently than me, and that I may be alienating them to my >> detriment. It seems consumer products need to be mindful of cultural >> differences, is FreeBSD different? A larger community and increased OS >> market share wouldn't be all that bad, would it? >> >> I hope that those of you who believe in FreeBSD but with a personal >> conflict with the mascot or logo, >> band together and propose a complementary alternate symbol. I don't >> mean flooding the mail list (it's obvious we can do that on our own), >> I'm talking about difficult time-consuming organization, lobbying, and >> support gathering. For me, I hope Beastie endures forever - he our first >> and legacy mascot - but I also wouldn't object to one or two more >> officially sanctioned mascots and logos either. >> >> Dale Scott > > God, I rewrote this 4 times, because I need to be careful and correct here. > First, there is no honest reason why people of differing opinions can't get > along. If others have problems with me having my own beliefs, I won't force > them to live my way, but they must respect my own choices too. The major > point > here, though, is a historical one: appeasement does not work, and even the > attempt leads to problems. > > The point is, no sane person really believes that Beastie equates to devil > worship, and I don't like the idea of letting crazies dictate my life. > _______________________________________________ For users that are not offended, you can read about a story about Beastie: http://rmitz.org/freebsd.daemon.html I remember having read that article a long time ago, but is also linked here in a recent article illustrating FreeBSD: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Health-Check-FreeBSD-The-unknown-giant-920248.html Regards, Antonio