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Date:      Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:34:45 +0000 (UTC)
From:      Duane Hill <d.hill@yournetplus.com>
To:        Greg Larkin <glarkin@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: disk encryption; hidden containers
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.1.10.0807241524060.40471@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com>
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Greg Larkin wrote:

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> Duane Hill wrote:
> | On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Greg Larkin wrote:
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> |> Chad Perrin wrote:
> |> | On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:01:54PM +0100, RW wrote:
> |> |> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:06:57 +0100
> |> |> RW <fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com> wrote:
> |> |>
> |> |>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:56:24 -0600
> |> |>> Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:
> |> |>>
> |> |>>> My preliminary searches on the subject suggest that neither GBDE nor
> |> |>>> GELI encryption offers hidden volume/container capabilities.
> |> |>> Are you talking about steganography?
> |> |> Sorry, I guess you're talking about volumes hidden in the unused space
> |> |> on a filesystem. I don't think there's anything. I'm not sure
> |> |> what the status of truecrypt is, I've heard some talk about it running
> |> |> on freebsd eventually.
> |> |>
> |> |> It would be a start for geli to be able to encrypt its metadata.
> |> |
> |> | So, are those basically my choices -- either wait for GBDE or GELI to
> |> | acquire that capability, or write it myself (which is not something I'm
> |> | prepared to do right now)?  Bummer.
> |> |
> |> | Well . . . or wait for something else like TrueCrypt to get ported to
> |> | FreeBSD, I suppose.
> |> |
> |>
> |> Hi Chad,
> |>
> |> There is a beta version of the TrueCrypt 5.1a port out there.  See:
> |> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2008-May/048432.html.
> |>
> |> I tried it in a VMware virtual machine a couple of months ago and it
> |> hung pretty consistently when copying files into the container.  It's
> |> entirely possible that the problem was related to the virtual
> |> environment, so YMMV.
> |
> | What VMWare version were you using and what OS and version hosted the VM?
> |
> | I only ask as I have been searching for this myself.
> |
> | Currently, I am using a commercial product under Linux and Windoes
> | called BestCrypt by Jetico (http://www.jetico.com).
> |
> | I have VMware installed currently under Windoes Vista. VMware version is
> | 6.0.4-93057. I haven't had any issues thus far running a number of
> | FreeBSD guest OSes.
> |
> | If your version is less than what I'm running, I would be willing to
> | install and test.
> |
>
> Hi Duane,
>
> I originally tested the TC port inside of VMware Player 1.0.5 running on
> Win XP SP2.  Do you think the hang could be caused by the version of
> VMware software that hosts the VM?  I've been thinking about purchasing
> VMware Workstation, and if I do that, I'll test there as well.

That could be. You could download the free VMware Server and try that 
first before purchasing VMware Workstation. It runs much the same.

-d



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