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Date:      Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:03:09 -0500
From:      Dennis Olvany <dennisolvany@gmail.com>
To:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        David Hoffman <zionicman@gmail.com>, freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org, thisdayislong <thisdayislong@gmail.com>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, ingrid@cityscope.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Dennis Olvany <dennisolvany@gmail.com> writes:
>> The concept of a fact obviously may not be copyrighted because it is 
>> merely a concept. Barring descriptive literary devices, the facts may be 
>> copied at will in their expressed form. A photo, being a descriptive 
>> device, is copyrightable. Considering the example of the Haynes manual, 
>> I can extract factual information --such as a starter change procedure-- 
>> from the manual word-for-word and use it.

> No, you can't.  Don't take my word for it; ask a lawyer.

Johnathan Michaels hit on the next point I would like to make and that 
is the distinction between patent and copyright. A method or process may 
be patented, but the factual written procedure of such may not be 
copyrighted. I'll follow up with some examples of the types are things 
that are not copyrightable in a final attempt to convey my point.


Roses are red.

Violets are blue.

2+2=4

howto change oil
1. remove oil cap
2. drain oil
3. remove filter
4. etc.



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