From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Dec 26 7: 8:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C458337B401 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 07:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931F543EC2 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 07:08:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBQF8EDx040747; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:08:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBQF8DoP040742; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:08:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:08:13 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Julian Elischer , Steve Kudlak , David Hunt , "'hackers@freebsd.org'" , Kate Sullivan Subject: Re: Mac iBook OS10 + BSD Message-ID: <20021226160813.B40667@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <3E06AC02.3BD0C826@ovis.net> <15883.6486.551402.144752@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15883.6486.551402.144752@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 09:59:34AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 09:59:34AM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Julian Elischer writes: > > .. > > Stick with MacOS-X it's going to run better onthis hardware than > > anything else. > > > > It all depends what you mean by better. If you're talking pure unix > performance, then I say you're full of crap. OS-X is a dog. Linux > runs circles around it. If you like, I'll post some LMbench numbers > showing linux kicking sand in OS-X's face on my dual 800MHz crashbox > when I return from vacation. I'm hoping our powerpc port comes close > to doing as well as linux. Also, X11 "feels" quite slow if you're > used to X11. (I'm writing this from KDE running under XDarwin on a ti > powerbook, 867MHz). > > However, if you're talking about ease of operation, then I agree with > you 100%. Suspend always works, the my ti powerbook is up and on the > network before I have the case open. My wife bought me a 2 button+ > scrollwheel mouse for Christmas. The mouse worked (scrollwheel > included) with no configuration at all, just as soon as I plugged it > in. It even worked in XDarwin. I was amazed. Iphoto rocks. Its Yeah, OSX you run for the GUI and ease of use. Not for raw speed. I built a US$ 99 300 MHz G3 PowerMac out of a surplus G3 mainboard, a ATX case (minor sawing work required) and an IDE disk. Just to play with OSX ;) Got inspired by the EuroBSDcon "MacOSX on a budget" presentation. W/ -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message