From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 2 16:34:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA04513 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 16:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (root@news.IAEhv.nl [194.151.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA04495 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 16:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCAL (uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.6.13/1.63) with IAEhv.nl; pid 29761 on Tue, 2 Sep 1997 23:34:15 GMT; id XAA29761 efrom: peter@grendel.IAEhv.nl; eto: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: (from peter@localhost) by grendel.IAEhv.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA00693; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 01:01:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19970903010156.02882@grendel.IAEhv.nl> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 01:01:56 +0200 From: Peter Korsten To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: The GUI debate References: <18613.873164589@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67e In-Reply-To: <18613.873164589@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Mon, Sep 01, 1997 at 06:43:09PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard shared with us: > > I would suggest this a an ammendment, and not a replacement for > > sysinstall. For various reasons, sysinstall still has its place. > > I'll tell you the same thing I've told Peter several times: Send me > the code for this and I'll be happy to evaluate it. More work on > my plate I don't particularly need, guys. :-) True enough. But personally, I'd rather see some kind of agreed standard, before I jump down and start to program. I might, for instance, write a front end to edit your users and groups, but you don't get real integration with that. I'd have to start over again with each application. (That was really the point I was trying to make. I don't want to complain that the OS were to suck in any way, it just lacks some things. I was also under the impression that at least some of the people around here prefered a text interface over a graphical one.) I think Java would be good starting point. It may not be as fast and high-performance as C/C++, but that's really not that important for a GUI. Since most of the work has already been done in Java, you can leave that out. And it's cross-platform as well, which other toolkits may not be. But it would take some time to investigate. I think I'll look around a bit (I have no real idea what JavaBeans exactly are). Maybe after that, I'll open my big mouth again. :) Maybe I'l just write that user administration program as an example and ask people what they think of it. - Peter