From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 6 11: 5: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EAC1337B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:04:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 37132 invoked by uid 100); 6 Mar 2001 19:04:58 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15013.13530.718675.101675@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:04:58 -0600 To: Brett Glass Cc: "Victor R. Cardona" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305004222.00cfe2a0@localhost> <20010305134937.K80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305114235.046da630@localhost> <20010305200017.D80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305123951.04604b20@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass types: > Fair use has always been a compromise. It allows some > uses, and some enjoyment of the material, that authors > really should be paid for but aren't. The authors are > willing to forego that payment it because it's infeasible > (and ridiculously invasive) to enforce copyright at that > level. However, they're willing to give up that revenue > so long as there's a good guarantee of enforcement of > their rights in other areas. This is reasonable and fair. By the same token, copyright is a compromise. You allow the authors to get paid for some of the copies so they'll publish things they might not otherwise bother to publish. I like the "don't protect copyright if doing so is infeasible and ridiculously invasive" idea. That means the emergence of cheap computers not only makes digital media a reasonable distribution mechanism, but also a media that shouldn't be protected. The really amusing things is that publishers have pissed off one of the most ardent group of copyright supporters outside of authors and publishers. The have attacked not only fair use copies, but the ability to use our property as we see fit by lending it out, giving away the original, or even reading it aloud. If enacted, this would pretty much kill libraries, so librarians are really, really PO'd about it. See Marylaine Block's latest Ex Libris editorial, at . That's in spite of librarians recognizing and respecting intellectual property to the point that the Code of Ethics of the American Library Association lists it explicitly. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message