Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:59:16 +0200 From: Christoph Sold <so@i-clue.de> To: jim@freeze.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FBSD + KDE + Netscape == STABLE?? Message-ID: <38E30954.E1B44285@i-clue.de> References: <00032821055800.00378@urim>
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Jim Freeze schrieb: > I have recently converted my home windows system to FBSD. > While it has been quite a learning experience, and I am > still very much a newbie, I am enjoying my new OS. > In addition, I have installed it on a machine at work, > and things seem to be running fine. Good to hear. > > However, despite all I have been reading, my experience > with the stability of fbsd on my home machine has been less > than satisfactory. That happens. Luckily, FreeBSD gives you the chance to look for the reason, and correct the problem so the system becomes more stable. > I am running 3.4-Release with KDE. > > Over the last two days, my system has crashed 3 times. > Two times happened immediately after closing a netscape 4.72 > browser window and once after closing a kppp config dialog. > FreeBSD Stable & KDE == Stable?? It is. I am running exactly the same software at home. Sometimes Netscape crashes (once a month or so), but it never kills the whole system. > Usually I was doing several things at once, and all three times > I was connected to the internet with a modem using user ppp. > > I knew I was in trouble in each case when my mouse froze up. > Shortly thereafter my system would do an automatic reboot. This symptom shows you are really in trouble. The system (called kernel) never panics without a reason. TRhe reason is usually hardware related, as I found out the hard way with the above mentioned system. > Trying to repeat the steps after the reboot to see if I could get > it to crash again have always failed. > Has anyone had these types of experiences? > Is it just me? :) No. It seems it is your hardware. > No, I was not logged in as root. > > Also, I can understand netscape or KDE being buggy and crashing, but > shouldn't fbsd be robust enough to not die? I thought that's what > un*x was all about. It is. BSD, along with a lot of other Unices, seems to make sure all data goes through uncorrupted. Thus, if the kernel detects corrupted data, it panics and, as a last resolve, reboots. The trick to get the system more stable is to detect which part of your box is malfunctioning. To do so, please supply some basic information (output of uname -a, e.g.), as well as your hardware configuration. If you're not using the GENERIC kernel, the configuration file would be nice, too. Without this information, I can take only the most probable wild shot at flakey RAM. > Thanks for any help, or consolation, here. You're welcome -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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