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Cc: Yann Golanski <yann@kierun.org>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-05:21.openssl
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Matt Piechota wrote:

>On Wed, October 12, 2005 4:21 am, Yann Golanski wrote:
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>>Quoth Timothy Smith on Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 17:39:46 +1000
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>>>the make world documents mentioning backing up your system. it fails to
>>>give any preffered methods or utilites for doing this. anyone got some
>>>input on that.
>>>      
>>>
>>I find rdiff-backup to be very good indeed.  It's in the port tree.
>>    
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>Section 16.11 in the handbook.  It's geared towards full-system backups, but
>that's probably a good idea anyways.
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>Also, couldn't you use ffs snapshots as a backout plan?  I don't see anything
>obvious to disregard everything after a snapshot in the man pages or handbook,
>however.  I suppose you could do a recursive diff and copy the files from the
>snapshot to the current filesystem.
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ffs snap shots are all very well when i have pyshical access to the machine.