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Date:      Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:47:53 +0100
From:      =?iso-8859-1?Q?Peter_Ankerst=E5l?= <peter@pean.org>
To:        Michael Aronsen <michael.aronsen@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HPC and zfs.
Message-ID:  <ACD2212B-7B3B-488E-AEFF-52A2CE9ABBC6@pean.org>
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On 6 feb 2012, at 17:49, Michael Aronsen wrote:

> Hi,
>=20
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 17:22 , Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
>> - What single motherboard supports up to 192GB of RAM
>=20
> Get an HP DL580/585 - they support 2TB/1TB RAM.
>=20
>> - How you plan on getting roughly 410 hard disks (or 422 assuming
>>  an additional 12 SSDs) hooked up to a single machine
>=20
> Use LSI SAS92XX 4 (x4) port external controllers, and SuperMicro =
SC847E26-RJBOD1 disk shelves.
> Each disk shelf needs 2 ports on the LSI controller, which means you =
get 90 disks per LSI card.
> The DL580/585's have 11 PCIe slots, so you'd end up with 990 disks per =
server using this setup.
>=20
>>=20
>=20
> We have NetApp's at our University for home storage, but I would =
struggle to recommend them for HPC storage.
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> A dedicated HPC filesystem such as Lustre or FhGFS =
(http://www.fhgfs.com/cms/) will almost certainly give you better =
performance as they're purpose made.
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> We use FhGFS in a rather small setup (44 TB usable space and ~200 HPC =
nodes), but they do have installations with 700TB+.
> The setup consists of 2 metadata nodes and 4 storage nodes, all =
supermicro servers with 24 WD Velociraptor 600 GB 10K RPM disks.
> This setup gives us 4.8GB/sec write and 4.3GB/sec read speeds, all for =
a lot less than a comparable NetApp solution (we paid around =8030.000).
> It now has support for mirroring on a per folder level for resilience.
>=20
> Currently it only runs on Linux but i'm considering a FreeBSD port to =
get ZFS for volume management and now that OFED is in FreeBSD 9, =
Infinifband is possible.
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> I'd highly recommend a parallel filesystem, unfortunately not many, if =
any, are available on FreeBSD at this time.
>=20
Thanks for the input. We recently had a visit by NetApp and Whamcloud =
actually and they where pitching for a NetApp+Whamcloud(lustre) =
installation.




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