From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 12 08:27:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC5416A4BF for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D460A43FBD for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:27:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CFRUE7033920; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:27:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:26:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20031012.092608.31505263.imp@bsdimp.com> To: des@des.no From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: <20031011050618.GB61302@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> <20031011222942.GM13791@cicely12.cicely.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: kuku@www.kukulies.org cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: ticso@cicely.de Subject: Re: smallest piece of hardware that runs *BSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:27:42 -0000 In message: des@des.no (Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav) writes: : Bernd Walter writes: : > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 03:06:18PM +1000, John Birrell wrote: : > > Here's one the size of a credit card: . : > > It's a lot bigger than a 'bump in a cable', but it runs FreeBSD. : > Leaves the question how much of the data on that page is correct. : > The elan chip is 486 class as we all know from soekris systems. : = : >From www.amd.com: : = : The =C9lan[tm] SC520 microcontroller combines a 32-bit, low-voltage= : Am5x86 CPU with a complete set of integrated peripherals suitable : for both real-time and PC/AT-compatible embedded applications. The : device also features a 32-bit PCI bus, a high-performance, 32-bit : SDRAM interface and a full-featured, high-performance in-circuit : emulation capability, known as the AMDebug[tm] technology. : = : so it's not incorrect, though they might get in trouble with Intel : over the use of the Pentium trademark in promotional material for a : product based on an AMD microcontroller. I'm not sure what you are saying here. However the Am5x86 core is a 486 class machine... Warner