Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:43:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins <mike@adept.org> To: Lamont Granquist <lamont@scriptkiddie.org> Cc: "A. L. Meyers" <a.l.meyers@consult-meyers.com>, Steve Lumos <slumos@nevada.edu>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is "stable" "stable"? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0107231035250.75814-100000@snafu.adept.org> In-Reply-To: <20010723095250.B66779-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org>
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Lamont Granquist wrote: > You're checking out the head of a development tree. It will never > be stable in your sense. As mentioned before it might theoretically > be best to rename "stable" but it needs a volunteer (you?) to do the > work to fix all the breakage which will result. This is the real problem - some individuals don't understand (don't CHOOSE to understand?) -STABLE means "more stable than -CURRENT" vs. "100% stable on 100% of the machines in the world." Granted, I never saw any official member of the FreeBSD community say "-STABLE is 100% stable on 100% of the machines in the world", so I never assumed -STABLE meant that. > > Do you seriously expect > > all users to go thru the testing procedures enumerated below? > Then use a point release with the security patches applied. Exactly. I expect users to RTFM enough not to shoot themselves in the foot. Afterall, it's your foot. Failing that, I expect them to bandage their own foot rather than asking why it was so easy to misfire after they loaded the gun and pointed it at their foot. > matrix we're talking about. Of course, are you volunteering to do QA on > code before it goes into stable? If you've got the hardware and the > manpower then maybe we can do something about it. That'd be nice... and expensive. *eyes QA racks for MUCH smaller matrix* :) Later, -Mike -- Log analysis mailing list: http://www.adept.org/mailinglists.html#logwatchers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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