From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 19 19:33:10 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D33B65D2B2 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 19:33:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-ej1-x62e.google.com (mail-ej1-x62e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GTBpF3LPsz3L97 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 19:33:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-ej1-x62e.google.com with SMTP id c17so30527118ejk.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 12:33:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=SsEUourh28U3iO2b44BBTB+ffmn83bOYwuTVlhQLH8A=; b=f2+iOBTlADPoeaUd9998X46vaBz8tMqXlhM1dgxUrtOXRh/B+lCqvHMt6OS1xlk9la 6CuVPDy4bG6RarQvCckriMKlTGUWgcpm8IqP+SkZZaoG65j/pOEnrx7HDzxVG/GPR8iZ aCh9jcF/hPojx0lFYRrfkdr9+cfYqPwpa+GrjmlVz6rkwDAIMSqEw25KY+FoTUScDNef gGakdJe6ya0MD9RfqwZtvJGHqAY5faiRW72b7Rxr9O+AR7v0ar4ZYIkFH7iLJVYEXJ1v arJ/yuX/ijyOO3LsO81Kms2FTLMXMt7iCgB6c2aBhDEcQDnoo8PLRDPerCPwbJkPWsXa 9LIQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SsEUourh28U3iO2b44BBTB+ffmn83bOYwuTVlhQLH8A=; b=JCEr0Pry7nRwexmNcVbhduF2x/xVzvYCOQPEpGNF51LDgpRPgmz9ofH+a2B2LsqBQz 9jno4ngq0yEaJsCVjeD39D9kANrKES3M7GhR3ntIZxz1GMN3SN9VmuK4gjxYFzgfFv36 vaifYN4rKIUoePbIm7Xhlb5c6bh9Sa9BWbZm0JCU44WM2QurG2Q0BNXWG+NZMmW7TbE6 oHFUsOJH1G8GbEd+8B9IsmJUmr3qPl36olWM22aaFoNfwpDjhgKzkrRtrlUjs3ovOrck LwLH8GjKXWHPZiwjxbgfnZgPDbV2EuORbOqc71yqN8CGX0Dn+9qG2021hBxcI8Hz6ewT XcuA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530BDEI95ncHbuVPaw6s76rOj5xWeMgVgNsaRiryCoN5YO5I3Qse 5PLJhIf/BojqgV+Or+OfGVdBRVxrLkUsSnL/8HPNXQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzf/jHJpU0lmUOlW1h3Ia2/+noZfjZWYg8lhXHSyWnB/WC53qH9rDCAKpyKT7p0rs2CPc7DAqA2j6E+W/3oyfc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:f2d7:: with SMTP id gz23mr28453965ejb.314.1626723187913; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 12:33:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Alejandro Imass Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 15:32:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD To: ezekiel motta Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GTBpF3LPsz3L97 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=f2+iOBTl; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::62e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aimass@yabarana.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.33 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.83)[-0.831]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yabarana.com]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62e:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62e:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62e:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 19:33:10 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 2:31 PM ezekiel motta wrote: > I agree, Alejandro. They do contribute to the community. The remora keeps > the shark clean of aquatic bugs > and is a pleasant companion. LOL > It is a symbiosis in an ecosystem. Even Leopards give back to the > community. > Only some/many humans are the exception to this rule. > yeah humans do not give too much back. > I am going to use NomadBSD on hard metal. > Looks bad ass, didn't even know it existed. I'm going to try it out on some old laptops and see. > Maybe I should not have used the word parasitical. > The very fact that they make DE's for FreeBSD is a great contribution. > Had they not made the contribution, I would not use FreeBSD. > I really did not mean to offend anybody. > None taken. Just a purely philosophical discussion. It's like when Jordan Peterson uses the word "Monster". I perfectly understand what he's saying but a lot of people don't. > As I said, my pref is purely technical. > > +1 here. > This is an interesting case that shows how copyright actually distorts > matters. > Imagine I create a DE for FreeBSD and call it AlphaX > On distrowatch it would say: AlphaX is based on FreeBSD despite the fact > that AlphaX's code would be 97% FreeBSD and 3% my code. > In reality, my DE would be an addition to FreeBSD. A meagre, minimal, > addition. > Hence, saying AlphaX is based on FreeBSD does not quite capture it. > It should be called FreeBSD/AlphaX DE > I don't agree and I didn't agree with RMS when he insisted people call Linux GNU/Linux. > However, since I can not use the name FreeBSD (for legal reasons) I can > not be honest. > I would have to call it AlphaX and say that it is based on FreeBSD when, > in reality, it is > FreeBSD with my meagre addition. > > So long as it expands the user base and extends the reach of an Open Source project I think is all good. > Imagine I take a Peugeot 205 rally car, change the inside, change the > instrumentation and call it ZeeMobile. > See what I am getting at? > > yeah perhaps. Especially if you don't give full credit to the original project. > Well, apologies for the use of the word parasitical. > > LOL, no issue here. > I am just someone who is interested in technology. > Greetings everyone, > Kind regards and thanks to the FreeBSD Foundation. > I really like the manner in which the Foundation combines two venerable > principles: democracy and aristocracy. > Z > > > Yeah. FBSD is probably the great last bastion of simple and true and powerful tech. > >>