From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 29 16: 0:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.cabledns.net (internet.edu.nf [64.42.232.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B10637B405 for ; Wed, 29 May 2002 16:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OK (bbiz42biy287e.ab.hsia.telus.net [142.59.192.145]) by www.cabledns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA29556; Wed, 29 May 2002 16:00:43 -0600 Message-ID: <013401c2075c$49044f00$91c03b8e@OK> From: "Pamela Patterson" To: , "'Alain Parsons'" Cc: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , References: <002001c206eb$1de7b1c0$20fea8c0@ddd> Subject: Re: Excess Capacity Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:00:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This happens after a long day at two keyboards, and 4 monitors. How about this for a comment? Its not in the Telco's best interest to sell at great prices to ISP's. They want it all! Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Ramos" To: "'Pamela Patterson'" ; "'Alain Parsons'" Cc: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 02:30 Subject: RE: Excess Capacity > I'm sorry Pamela, I don't get your point. I get my pricing from ISPCHAT, > these guys are not fat cat salespeople, they are actuallt our support people > at Bell. > Why would they behave in the fashion that you described?...., I mean, in > theory there is no reason for that... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pamela Patterson [mailto:pamela.p@opendns.biz] > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:44 PM > To: Alain Parsons; George Ramos > Cc: ispchat@bell.ca; julie.taylor@bell.ca; julie.allain@bell.ca; > marc.morin@bell.ca; mike.gosselin@bell.ca; joanne.page@bell.ca; > sherwood.flemming@bell.ca; leslie.williams@bell.ca; ken.white@bell.ca; > sheila.ward@bell.ca; j.steele@bell.ca; anita.archambault@bell.ca; > f.dubois-beauchamp@bell.ca; joelle.picard@bell.ca; > stephanie.riley@bell.ca; diane.cincar@bell.ca; list@iip.ca; > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; caip-members@caip.ca > Subject: Re: Excess Capacity > > > How many Clec's do you think there are with "Excess Capacity" and marketing > people refusing to sell it ? How many colo's are vacant but, the sales guy > wants that one big sale, so no discounts? We see it all the time. Sales & > Marketing (Price Fixers) have driven many a CLEC to bankruptcy. > > On another note: Tommorrow I think is the day the CRTC is supposed to issue > a ruling on the fee's Clec's pay to ILec's. Should be interesting. > > Pamela Patterson > > * We are Sales Driven - Not Process Driven * > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message