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Date:      Wed, 29 May 2002 16:00:45 -0600
From:      "Pamela Patterson" <pamela.p@opendns.biz>
To:        <george@durham.net>, "'Alain Parsons'" <aparsons@abacom.com>
Cc:        <ispchat@bell.ca>, <julie.taylor@bell.ca>, <julie.allain@bell.ca>, <marc.morin@bell.ca>, <mike.gosselin@bell.ca>, <joanne.page@bell.ca>, <sherwood.flemming@bell.ca>, <leslie.williams@bell.ca>, <ken.white@bell.ca>, <sheila.ward@bell.ca>, <j.steele@bell.ca>, <anita.archambault@bell.ca>, <f.dubois-beauchamp@bell.ca>, <joelle.picard@bell.ca>, <stephanie.riley@bell.ca>, <diane.cincar@bell.ca>, <list@iip.ca>, <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org>, <caip-members@caip.ca>
Subject:   Re: Excess Capacity
Message-ID:  <013401c2075c$49044f00$91c03b8e@OK>
References:  <002001c206eb$1de7b1c0$20fea8c0@ddd>

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This happens after a long day at two keyboards, and 4 monitors.  How about
this for a comment?

Its not in the Telco's best interest to sell at great prices to ISP's. They
want it all!

Cheers.


----- Original Message -----
From: "George Ramos" <george@durham.net>
To: "'Pamela Patterson'" <pamela.p@opendns.biz>; "'Alain Parsons'"
<aparsons@abacom.com>
Cc: <ispchat@bell.ca>; <julie.taylor@bell.ca>; <julie.allain@bell.ca>;
<marc.morin@bell.ca>; <mike.gosselin@bell.ca>; <joanne.page@bell.ca>;
<sherwood.flemming@bell.ca>; <leslie.williams@bell.ca>; <ken.white@bell.ca>;
<sheila.ward@bell.ca>; <j.steele@bell.ca>; <anita.archambault@bell.ca>;
<f.dubois-beauchamp@bell.ca>; <joelle.picard@bell.ca>;
<stephanie.riley@bell.ca>; <diane.cincar@bell.ca>; <list@iip.ca>;
<freebsd-isp@freebsd.org>; <caip-members@caip.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 02:30
Subject: RE: Excess Capacity


> I'm sorry Pamela, I don't get your point. I get my pricing from ISPCHAT,
> these guys are not fat cat salespeople, they are actuallt our support
people
> at Bell.
> Why would they behave in the fashion that you described?...., I mean, in
> theory there is no reason for that...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pamela Patterson [mailto:pamela.p@opendns.biz]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:44 PM
> To: Alain Parsons; George Ramos
> Cc: ispchat@bell.ca; julie.taylor@bell.ca; julie.allain@bell.ca;
> marc.morin@bell.ca; mike.gosselin@bell.ca; joanne.page@bell.ca;
> sherwood.flemming@bell.ca; leslie.williams@bell.ca; ken.white@bell.ca;
> sheila.ward@bell.ca; j.steele@bell.ca; anita.archambault@bell.ca;
> f.dubois-beauchamp@bell.ca; joelle.picard@bell.ca;
> stephanie.riley@bell.ca; diane.cincar@bell.ca; list@iip.ca;
> freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; caip-members@caip.ca
> Subject: Re: Excess Capacity
>
>
> How many Clec's do you think there are with "Excess Capacity" and
marketing
> people refusing to sell it ?  How many colo's are vacant but, the sales
guy
> wants that one big sale, so no discounts? We see it all the time. Sales &
> Marketing (Price Fixers) have driven many  a CLEC to bankruptcy.
>
> On another note: Tommorrow I think is the day the CRTC is supposed to
issue
> a ruling on the fee's Clec's pay to ILec's. Should be interesting.
>
> Pamela Patterson
>
> * We are Sales Driven - Not Process Driven *
>


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