From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 7 17:45:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9CF106564A for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 17:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdf356@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f44.google.com (mail-pz0-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8938FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 17:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32so14425098pzk.3 for ; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:45:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PR/Khn7qJjFw+6MlLger/T8SBxj7bR8FUwBVIY8YTXc=; b=jbV47CEFKuctTONK4PjWEEqj5k1gmNcOBxCshVpfOZveyMnuS/cb0K8wosmFnHzRuC QymkC4hrnbmDCkpmCWfvlMaJfVWj1+peme8puR0j0OG7Z1cm8T223dPOpdvQKQN4OWaJ DRvIymabZDOT2rzaOmrJ4b2MEDoKryzo22M4A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.15.232 with SMTP id a8mr544306pbd.129.1320686298975; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:18:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: mdf356@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.49.35 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:18:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <60946.1320475599@tristatelogic.com> References: <60946.1320475599@tristatelogic.com> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:18:18 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: UHd5uOSl288UQkp9KbCOUjWxqUY Message-ID: From: mdf@FreeBSD.org To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: write access to various times X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:45:25 -0000 On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > It would appear that in 8.2-RELEASE, at least, each "struct stat" contain= s > four fields, each of type "timespec", and having the following names: > > =A0 =A0st_atimespec > =A0 =A0st_mtimespec > =A0 =A0st_ctimespec > =A0 =A0st_birthtimespec > > I already know that if I want to modify either (or both) of the first > two fields listed above, I should call utimes(2). =A0But what do I do if = I need > to modify the values of either or both of the other two fields? =A0(I may= want > to do this, e.g. if I am trying to restore all of the struct stat fields > from a backed-up representation of some original filesystem entry.) > > The current man page for utimes(2) says (among other things): > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D > =A0 =A0 ... > =A0 =A0 If times is non-NULL, it is assumed to point to an array of two t= imeval > =A0 =A0 structures. =A0The access time is set to the value of the first e= lement, > =A0 =A0 and the modification time is set to the value of the second eleme= nt. =A0For > =A0 =A0 file systems that support file birth (creation) times (such as UF= S2), the > =A0 =A0 birth time will be set to the value of the second element if the = second > =A0 =A0 element is older than the currently set birth time. =A0To set bot= h a birth > =A0 =A0 time and a modification time, two calls are required; the first t= o set > =A0 =A0 the birth time and the second to set the (presumably newer) modif= ication > =A0 =A0 time. =A0Ideally a new system call will be added that allows the = setting of > =A0 =A0 all three times at once... > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D > > Is there any ETA for this postulated new system call? To my knowledge, no. I think this was a hopeful statement on the original author's part. AFAIK no one is working on this change. We have a patch at $WORK that adds a vtimes(2) syscall with support for setting birthtime as well as mtime and atime. Some day [1] I may be able to upstream this functionality back to FreeBSD. [1] predicated on continued employment, change of roles at $WORK, time, and community acceptance of the changes. A rough estimate would be sometime in the middle or end of 2012. Cheers, matthew > Also, of course, although the method described above for setting the valu= e of > the st_birthtimespec field is rather clumsey and inefficient, at least th= ere > _is_ a way to set that field. =A0I am concerned however because I persona= lly > still know of no way whatsoever to set the value of the st_ctimespec fiel= d. > Is there any way to do that? > > It would be most helpful to have that too.