From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 01:20:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDEA16A508 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:20:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com (smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3EB343D1F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.198.174 with login) by smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 01:20:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6513614E; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:20:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12929-12-3; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:20:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from compgeek.noacks.org (compgeek [192.168.1.10]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CB2614D; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:20:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by compgeek.noacks.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAT1Kerp092706; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:20:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Message-ID: <41AA7968.2030601@alumni.rice.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:20:40 -0600 From: Jon Noack User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041128) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:20:44 -0000 On 11/28/04 19:16, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > It is with a little intrepidation that I ask this question, because I > sense that what I am about to ask might push some buttons, or perhaps > bring back some unpleasant memories of those who have asked what I am > going to ask in a less tactful manner. > > I find that the beastie that appears at boot time with FreeBSD 5.3 > mildly bothers me. It is possible for me to edit boot/beastie.4th, but > this gets put back each time I do make installworld. > > Would it be possible to add a variable "show_beastie" to be put in > /boot/loader.conf, which would default to "YES", but users could add in > show_beastie="NO" if they didn't want it, but only want the menu. > > I am sure that this is a sensitive subject with you guys, because I know > that you have no intention of associating FreeBSD with satanism or > anything like that. It is not my intention to apply any kind of label > of evil to you guys, indeed I find FreeBSD to be a very fine operating > system, and I use it all the time. But the symbol which is commonly > associated with the devil does cause me some discomfort, and for > example, if I were to install some kind of server for my church, I think > that it would bother them as well. > > I know that the the symbol of the beastie is strongly associated with > FreeBSD, and that it would be grossly unfair for me to ask for it to be > removed just because of my personal discomfort. > > That is why I am proposing the solution above. I think that it would be > easy to implement by anyone who knows Forth (presuming that the > loader.conf variables are known to the beastie.4th program), and that > this would not interfere at all with those who don't mind or enjoy the > beastie, but it would also help people like me in an unobtrusive manner. Throw 'beastie_disable="YES"' into /boot/loader.conf. Jon