From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 4 11:33:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C190D106564A; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 11:33:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de [217.11.53.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745538FC14; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 11:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p57B3B4E4.dip.t-dialin.net [87.179.180.228]) by mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B38DF84400A; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 13:15:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (unknown [IPv6:fd73:10c7:2053:1::2:102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B753E1646; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 13:15:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.4/8.13.8/Submit) id o94BF4CR097376; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 13:15:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.ec.europa.eu (pslux.ec.europa.eu [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:15:04 +0200 Message-ID: <20101004131504.790553t2r4kpcpwk@webmail.leidinger.net> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:15:04 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Doug Barton References: <19625.2146.758021.796409@gossamer.timing.com> <4CA90A78.5010806@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4CA90A78.5010806@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Dynamic Internet Messaging Program (DIMP) H3 (1.1.4) X-EBL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-EBL-MailScanner-ID: B38DF84400A.A5FDC X-EBL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-EBL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, spamhaus-ZEN, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=1.274, required 6, autolearn=disabled, RDNS_NONE 1.27) X-EBL-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-EBL-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-EBL-MailScanner-Watermark: 1286795711.40698@+T0+ZrCsJ9Z+J1IYj/NORw X-EBL-Spam-Status: No Cc: "Philip M. Gollucci" , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, John Hein Subject: Re: ident strings in pkg-plist X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 11:33:51 -0000 Quoting Doug Barton (from Sun, 03 Oct 2010 15:58:00 -0700): > Changing the list to have a real discussion about this. > > On 10/3/2010 3:49 PM, John Hein wrote: >> I'll mention that >> it has come in handy for me in the past. I put it into the category >> of ident strings in binaries. It has a similar utility. >> >> Because I find it useful in maintaining and using a port/package, >> I've been one that has added it to pkg-plist in the past. > > I'm curious about what your use case for the information is. You can > always know if you have the latest version of the plist via cvs, > c[v]sup, portsnap, etc. Other than knowing that you have the latest > version, what utility does the $Id string in the file itself have? I see a value in this if: - you use a port with non-default options which change the plist and - a change is made to the plist which affects your use case, but the revision of the port is not changed (because the change only affects the non-default options and as such do not change the default package) Normally you can not detect after a while if the plist in the port is what is used in /var/db/pkg or not (the dates in /var/db/pkg may change when portupgrade is used). If this matters and rectifies a new rule to include an ident string into the plist or not... personally I wouldn't object if it is added. Bye, Alexander. -- This is the sort of English up with which I will not put. -- Winston Churchill http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137