From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 17 15: 3:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtppop2pub.verizon.net (smtppop2pub.gte.net [206.46.170.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F4A37B403 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:03:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Received: from gte.net (evrtwa1-ar4-4-34-145-186.evrtwa1.dsl.gtei.net [4.34.145.186]) by smtppop2pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id RAA156487305 Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:03:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from res03db2@localhost) by gte.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA37644; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:04:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:04:40 -0700 From: Robert Clark To: Robert Hough Cc: Chris Moline , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: System Tuning/Sysadmins Message-ID: <20010617150440.A37567@darkstar.gte.net> References: <20010617063505.A29241@shell.monmouth.com> <20010617073505.B20171@h24-67-61-12.lb.shawcable.net> <20010617103922.A79022@acidpit.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20010617103922.A79022@acidpit.org>; from rch@acidpit.org on Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 10:39:22AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Get some SSA 110s, they make good license dongles. [RC] On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 10:39:22AM -0400, Robert Hough wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001, Chris Moline wrote: > > > > Making the os easier to use is not a bad thing. > > Agreed, but knowing old ways is a "Good Thing(tm)" as you never know > when you'll encounter some ancient box sitting in the back of some den, > performing old production tasks everyone now takes for granted, because > it's been doing it so long. > > > What's wrong with using an easier to use tool?? If it does everything > > you need then I say it's good enough > > The problem isn't using the new tool, it's only knowing how to use the > new tool. What are you going to do if for someone reason X fails to > start and you can't get to this super-groovy gui? What happens when > if someone deletes the useradd/adduser utilities (It's happened)? > > I'm all for the snazzy new tools that are coming out. I use metatool > under Solaris all the time, simply because typing in all those commands > when building a new volume gets really freaking old. I can do it if I > must though. Now, if I could just get them to use veritas instead, cause > metatool annoys the piss out of me. > > -- > Robert Hough (rch@acidpit.org) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message