Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 09:37:18 +0200 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> To: Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <5715E02E.4000404@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <5715A4E1.5090606@orthanc.ca> References: <20160302235429.GD75641@FreeBSD.org> <57152CE5.5050500@FreeBSD.org> <9D4B9C8B-41D7-42BC-B436-D23EFFF60261@ixsystems.com> <20160418191425.GW1554@FreeBSD.org> <571533B8.6090109@freebsd.org> <20160418194010.GX1554@FreeBSD.org> <57153E80.4080800@FreeBSD.org> <571551AB.4070203@freebsd.org> <5715772A.3070306@freebsd.org> <571588BB.2070803@orthanc.ca> <201604190201.u3J216NQ054020@orthanc.ca> <5715968B.303@orthanc.ca> <5715A338.5060009@freebsd.org> <5715A4E1.5090606@orthanc.ca>
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Lyndon Nerenberg wrote on 04/19/2016 05:24: > On 2016-04-18 8:17 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> Can someone on the "too many packages" campaign here explain to me how >> having too fine a granularity stops you from making macro packages >> containing packages? >> >> Because honestly I can't see how having granularity hurts at all when if >> someone wanted to make it less granular all they would have to do is >> make some meta-packages. Meta-packages doesn't hide anything (in list of packages and problems with dependencies) > It's the *I have to put it back together* part that's annoying. I > didn't break something that has worked, forever. It shouldn't be > incumbent on me to un-break someone else's work. +1 And you made another good point in previous e-mail about reviewed research. I would really like to see some docs about this topic. I have a feeling that some work on FreeBSD is against average users / admins and is good only for vedors of specialized or embedded devices. As many before - I am not against packaging base. It is good, but 10 - 20 packages will be enough. 800+ is too far from my feeling of "this is good feature". This seems like a nightmare to me. This was one of the reasons I don't like other OS distribuitions and I stayed with FreeBSD for more than 15 years. Miroslav Lachman
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