From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 26 18:35:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE6B16A4DD for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8BA43D49 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:35:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965A1291B02; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:35:12 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 98577-02; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:35:13 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953F9291AFA; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:34:41 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 3CBE547FB2; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:34:42 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3891736900; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:34:42 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:34:42 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: "Peter A. Giessel" In-Reply-To: <44C79475.90308@mac.com> Message-ID: <20060726153149.X17979@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060726032544.4CA2643D70@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20060726123204.C17979@ganymede.hub.org> <44C79475.90308@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:35:16 -0000 On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Peter A. Giessel wrote: > On 7/26/2006 07:35, User Freebsd seems to have typed: > >> The point is, if we keep acting as "individuals", vendors will treat as >> unimportant ... if we start acting like an organization, and actually >> *lobby* these vendors for better support, maybe they will start to listen >> to us ... > > We could also make it a point to support those who actually support us, > such as 3ware, thus making it very profitable to continue to support > FreeBSD and providing financial disincentive to those who don't support > FreeBSD. The problem with this is where is the dis-incentive? those that aren't openly supporting us now don't believe they are losing any money from not supporting us ... What I'd like to see, as I've posted on advocacy as well, is #s to show to those that aren't openly supporting us know to show them that there is a market for them ... Supporting 3ware is good, but what if/when Adaptec buys them out ... Adaptec doesn't officially support FreeBSD, therefore, anyone they buy out would most likely change their policy accordingly ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664