From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Wed Feb 1 17:09:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C957CCBCED; Wed, 1 Feb 2017 17:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF0F91DFD; Wed, 1 Feb 2017 17:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cYyPm-000ArC-SH; Wed, 01 Feb 2017 20:09:50 +0300 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 20:09:50 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: John Baldwin Cc: "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , src-committers , Warner Losh , Takahashi Yoshihiro Subject: Re: svn commit: r312910 - in head: . etc/etc.pc98 etc/rc.d lib/libsysdecode libexec release release/doc release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/readme release/doc/share/example... Message-ID: <20170201170950.GF79121@zxy.spb.ru> References: <201701280222.v0S2MFSR022477@repo.freebsd.org> <3458844.3oruRKbrzH@ralph.baldwin.cx> <20170201103555.GA79121@zxy.spb.ru> <12386326.7GSpFTXsMZ@ralph.baldwin.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <12386326.7GSpFTXsMZ@ralph.baldwin.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 17:09:53 -0000 On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:59:40AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > > Fair enough. I haven't fully put away my 12 axe and am toying with > > > dropping any ISA-only storage and NIC drivers (and perhaps pccard-only > > > as well in that case). Hardware that wants to use ISA/pccard for > > > storage is probably happier running 4.x anyway. One question is if we > > > should drop ISA attachments in that case for drivers that support PCI > > > and ISA. However, there's a fair list of ISA-only adapters that would > > > be a good place to start anyway. One concern is to not drop any drivers > > > > ps/2 keyboard, mouse, touchpads, lm sensors, etc?... > > Those aren't storage or NICs. There are many "legacy" device still present > in modern systems that we obviously have to support. However, if you have > an ISA Adapter SCSI HBA in an ISA slot, the machine running that is probably > happier running 4.x than 12.0. Also, I am think current ports don't build on 4.x. I am got complains about using ports on 8.x.