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Date:      Wed, 22 Jul 2015 16:04:47 +0200
From:      Pietro Cerutti <gahr@FreeBSD.org>
To:        marino@freebsd.org
Cc:        Mathieu Arnold <mat@freebsd.org>, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, owner-ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r392666 - head/audio/libgroove
Message-ID:  <e3b6b7af7231888e046f325cd799f563@gahr.ch>
In-Reply-To: <55AFA1EE.8020004@marino.st>
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On 2015-07-22 16:00, John Marino wrote:
> On 7/22/2015 3:55 PM, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
>> On 2015-07-22 15:50, John Marino wrote:
>>> On 7/22/2015 3:43 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>>> +--On 22 juillet 2015 15:35:08 +0200 John Marino
>>>> <freebsd.contact@marino.st> wrote:
>>>> | I knew that's what you meant, and that's what I'm talking about.  
>>>> The
>>>> | expanded name is the defacto standard and this was hammered into 
>>>> me
>>>> | during mentering.  You're going out of your way to go against this
>>>> | without explaining why, so I'm curious as to why.  Danfe just 
>>>> didn't
>>>> | make this up.
>>>> 
>>>> The documentation says:
>>>> 
>>>>         If this line is present, future maintainers must
>>>>         not change or remove it except at the original author's 
>>>> request.
>>>> 
>>>> So, I am wondering, what part of that sentence do all of you not get
>>>> ?  Is
>>>> the "MUST NOT CHANGE OR REMOVE" not clear ?  Of course, il only 
>>>> talks
>>>> about
>>>> future maintainers, I assume that committers understand that it
>>>> applies to
>>>> them even if they're not the maintainer.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The intent is not clear.  I assumed that "no change" was trying to
>>> ensure credit was not lost.  However, if the original email address 
>>> was
>>> gone, or some kind of nickname is used, I would have assumed that is
>>> modifiable.
>>> 
>>> Nothing is magic about this line; it's not even mandatory.  So if you
>>> are clarifying it is immutatable, then I'd like the reason documented
>>> because it now escapes me.  I was given the benefit of the doubt over
>>> the literal meaning.  The literal I don't think is good.
>>> 
>>> So now please explain why it can't be changed if credit is 
>>> maintained?
>> 
>> Can my "Created by:" line be put back as it was, while you figure out 
>> an
>> answer to your question, and while discussion is ongoing on whether 
>> the
>> PHB must be changed according to your interpretation?
> 
> I've got nothing to do with this other than being curious why this was
> such a big deal.  now that you have explained you don't want your name
> there then I'd suggest just remove it completely.  It's not my call.
> 
> John

Thanks.</rethoric>

-- 
Pietro Cerutti
gahr@FreeBSD.org



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